As for whether altruism exists or not; I think it does. I completely understand the view that everything we do whether conscious or not is self serving. I would lean towards the view that something can be both self serving and serve another, and that this can be considered altruistic whereas when something is self serving but harms another it is pride.
I agree. Sort of. The difference is whether or not it’s the “serving others” bit that’s the byproduct.
If you take the Mormon version of Jesus - the theology goes that two brothers put themselves forward with their plans for how to operate “Project Earthly Existence”. Satan is portrayed as being selfishly wanting all the glory for the success of the plan, Jesus is portrayed as “altruistically” giving all the glory for the success of the plan to God. Interestingly, God decided to go with the plan that ensured He would get all the glory for Himself. Which is, when you think about it, portraying God as self serving.
Premise 1. Eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
As for whether altruism exists or not; I think it does. I completely understand the view that everything we do whether conscious or not is self serving. I would lean towards the view that something can be both self serving and serve another, and that this can be considered altruistic whereas when something is self serving but harms another it is pride.
I agree. Sort of. The difference is whether or not it’s the “serving others” bit that’s the byproduct.
If you take the Mormon version of Jesus - the theology goes that two brothers put themselves forward with their plans for how to operate “Project Earthly Existence”. Satan is portrayed as being selfishly wanting all the glory for the success of the plan, Jesus is portrayed as “altruistically” giving all the glory for the success of the plan to God. Interestingly, God decided to go with the plan that ensured He would get all the glory for Himself. Which is, when you think about it, portraying God as self serving.
Of course, this portayal of god is consistent with the Old Testament angry, jealous, and picky god, who eventually murders almost all of his creation for not being as obedient and worshipful as he ordered them to be.
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I agree. Sort of. The difference is whether or not it’s the “serving others” bit that’s the byproduct.
If you take the Mormon version of Jesus - the theology goes that two brothers put themselves forward with their plans for how to operate “Project Earthly Existence”. Satan is portrayed as being selfishly wanting all the glory for the success of the plan, Jesus is portrayed as “altruistically” giving all the glory for the success of the plan to God. Interestingly, God decided to go with the plan that ensured He would get all the glory for Himself. Which is, when you think about it, portraying God as self serving.
Of course, this portayal of god is consistent with the Old Testament angry, jealous, and picky god, who eventually murders almost all of his creation for not being as obedient and worshipful as he ordered them to be.
It would have been easier to chalk that up to mythology, that the flood story is just cultural memory of Younger Dryas flooding, if not for the fact that it is reaffirmed in the Book of Moses. Much easier to convince someone that the Bible, already believed to be translated incorrectly, is wrong than the Pearl of Great Price.
I’m not sure what to think about considering the Father as selfish in the premortal council.
I am called Ego because that is what I seek to overcome in myself.
