Mormon Times article on DCP

[_moksha]

My magna designation is something that was bestowed upon me without much effort on my part.

You say that now, but I think the BYU Professors appreciated all the colored borders you drew for extra-credit.

[_Trevor]

What I think matters to apologists about Quinn's homosexuality is that it discredits him among LDS people, not a few of whom probably consider it for grounds to disbelieve him and suspect his "agenda" at every turn. His prospects for a career as an academic are probably a secondary consideration. Still, playing on people's homophobia is ugly enough.

[_rcrocket]

What I think matters to apologists about Quinn's homosexuality is that it discredits him among LDS people, not a few of whom probably consider it for grounds to disbelieve him and suspect his "agenda" at every turn. His prospects for a career as an academic are probably a secondary consideration. Still, playing on people's homophobia is ugly enough.

Such broad, sweeping statements. I think he commands high respect among most LDS scholars but they share a criticism about the way he draws conclusions. I have never seen an LDS scholar who has published works in academic presses ever condemn Quinn merely because he is a homosexual.

[_Rollo Tomasi]

The WSJ article, which you were the first to post at FAIR, said otherwise. The man has been blackballed by the LDS academic community because of his controversial writings, and his homosexuality has been thrown about to further seal his demise. And, guess what? It worked.

Again, untrue. From Quinn's own mouth in his Sunstone "Pillars of My Faith" presentation it is untrue. http://mormonstories.org/?p=392
Or, are proofs irrelevant?

The presentation is from August 1994, less than one year after he was ex'ed, and before his two Hierarchy books, 2nd revision of the Magic World View, and Same-Gender Attraction books were published ... oh, and 12 years before the WSJ article you found.

[_Trevor]

Such broad, sweeping statements. I think he commands high respect among most LDS scholars but they share a criticism about the way he draws conclusions. I have never seen an LDS scholar who has published works in academic presses ever condemn Quinn merely because he is a homosexual.

Nice deflection, Bob. We were talking about the repeated references by apologists to Quinn's sexuality on the boards.

[_Yoda]

Bob, Skippy and I would be very interested in you addressing the questions we posed. I'll pull the quote forward since it got lost on a prior thread page.

When you restore this Board's history, I'll cite chapter and verse. Or maybe not. I have a long-standing rule not to be gulled into research somebody else's old posts.

Suffice it to say, skippy is a professional, and his posts would be very very fruitful grounds for embarrassment in his profession if he unmasked his anonymity.

Me -- you know where I live and practice. You, as one or more have already done, are free to contact my firm and stake president to anonymously embarrass me. [Hauling out the martyr card one more time!]

Click on this link, Bob:

http://mormondiscussions.com/discuss/se ... de=results

After you click on the link, simply type in Skippy the Dead in the Search for Author field. Make sure that the radio button on the Display results as category is set to Posts.

You will find all of Skippy's posts, all 1436 of them. Knock yourself out.

Also, if you have a long-standing rule regarding researching others' old posts, then you better not accuse them of things that you are not prepared to prove.

And what's the deal with referring to Skippy as a "him". She has identified herself to be female. That is just rude.

[_Rollo Tomasi]

What I think matters to apologists about Quinn's homosexuality is that it discredits him among LDS people, not a few of whom probably consider it for grounds to disbelieve him and suspect his "agenda" at every turn. His prospects for a career as an academic are probably a secondary consideration. Still, playing on people's homophobia is ugly enough.

Such broad, sweeping statements. I think he commands high respect among most LDS scholars but they share a criticism about the way he draws conclusions. I have never seen an LDS scholar who has published works in academic presses ever condemn Quinn merely because he is a homosexual.

True ... they gossip about him instead.

[_rcrocket]

What I think matters to apologists about Quinn's homosexuality is that it discredits him among LDS people, not a few of whom probably consider it for grounds to disbelieve him and suspect his "agenda" at every turn. His prospects for a career as an academic are probably a secondary consideration. Still, playing on people's homophobia is ugly enough.

Such broad, sweeping statements. I think he commands high respect among most LDS scholars but they share a criticism about the way he draws conclusions. I have never seen an LDS scholar who has published works in academic presses ever condemn Quinn merely because he is a homosexual.

True ... they gossip about him instead.

I don't consider it gossip if Dr. Quinn admits to it; otherwise, it is little different than what you are doing here, continually bringing up Dr. Quinn's homosexuality as a way to embarrass people -- him or others.

[_rcrocket]

Bob, Skippy and I would be very interested in you addressing the questions we posed. I'll pull the quote forward since it got lost on a prior thread page.

When you restore this Board's history, I'll cite chapter and verse. Or maybe not. I have a long-standing rule not to be gulled into research somebody else's old posts.

Suffice it to say, skippy is a professional, and his posts would be very very fruitful grounds for embarrassment in his profession if he unmasked his anonymity.

Me -- you know where I live and practice. You, as one or more have already done, are free to contact my firm and stake president to anonymously embarrass me. [Hauling out the martyr card one more time!]

Click on this link, Bob:

http://mormondiscussions.com/discuss/se ... de=results

After you click on the link, simply type in Skippy the Dead in the Search for Author field. Make sure that the radio button on the Display results as category is set to Posts.

You will find all of Skippy's posts, all 1436 of them. Knock yourself out.

Also, if you have a long-standing rule regarding researching others' old posts, then you better not accuse them of things that you are not prepared to prove.

And what's the deal with referring to Skippy as a "him". She has identified herself to be female. That is just rude.

I don't follow this Board with religious fervor. I have never heard or seen him/her refer to a particular gender. If I don't know any better, I go with the avatar.

I'm sticking with my personal rule.

[_Rollo Tomasi]

What I think matters to apologists about Quinn's homosexuality is that it discredits him among LDS people, not a few of whom probably consider it for grounds to disbelieve him and suspect his "agenda" at every turn. His prospects for a career as an academic are probably a secondary consideration. Still, playing on people's homophobia is ugly enough.

Such broad, sweeping statements. I think he commands high respect among most LDS scholars but they share a criticism about the way he draws conclusions. I have never seen an LDS scholar who has published works in academic presses ever condemn Quinn merely because he is a homosexual.

True ... they gossip about him instead.

I don't consider it gossip if Dr. Quinn admits to it; otherwise, it is little different than what you are doing here, continually bringing up Dr. Quinn's homosexuality as a way to embarrass people -- him or others.

Talking behind someone's back about their sexuality certainly is gossip. I presume you admit to being a married heterosexual. Would it not be gossip to discuss your sex life behind your back?