Seeking out the best books

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Blixa wrote:
I too, love A Confederacy of Dunces and I'm sorry I left it off my list. Do you know the history of the attempts to film it? Or the roster of completely unacceptable actors who have been suggested for Ignatius? John Belushi? Chris Farley? Will Ferrell???? (John Candy and John Goodman have also been considered, and while I think they could have approached the role with the seriousness and not just comedy it deserves, they are also not especially inspired choices. If Zack Galifianakis were only taller, he could probably do the role justice. I still don't want it done though).


You're right. Without the right person in the role of Ignatius, the film would turn into a two hour fart joke. We already have movies that are two hour fart jokes.

It seems wrong, but when I read the book, I always imagine characters drawn in that 'too busy' Robert Crumb style.
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Morley wrote:
Blixa wrote:
I too, love A Confederacy of Dunces and I'm sorry I left it off my list. Do you know the history of the attempts to film it? Or the roster of completely unacceptable actors who have been suggested for Ignatius? John Belushi? Chris Farley? Will Ferrell???? (John Candy and John Goodman have also been considered, and while I think they could have approached the role with the seriousness and not just comedy it deserves, they are also not especially inspired choices. If Zack Galifianakis were only taller, he could probably do the role justice. I still don't want it done though).


You're right. Without the right person in the role of Ignatius, the film would turn into a two hour fart joke. We already have movies that are two hour fart jokes.

It seems wrong, but when I read the book, I always imagine characters drawn in that 'too busy' Robert Crumb style.


I don't know if you like Ed Abbey or not, but Ken Sanders commissioned Robert Crumb to do an illustrated version of The Monkey Wrench Gang. It's quite good. If you go to Ken's bookstore, he has some of the original drawings there.

Here's a nice blog that features a tour of most of the places in the novel.
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Blixa wrote:
I don't know if you like Ed Abbey or not, but Ken Sanders commissioned Robert Crumb to do an illustrated version of The Monkey Wrench Gang. It's quite good. If you go to Ken's bookstore, he has some of the original drawings there.


I love Edward Abbey. He's sort of the patron saint of environmentalists in the Four Corners area. Now that you mention it, I'm sure I've seen that volume in the Moab bookstore where they have a whole Abbey shrine (I'm in the area hiking every year). I'm embarrassed to say that I'll bet that I dredged that up from the back of my brain and applied it to Toole.

I was in Salt Lake and outside of Ken's bookstore a couple of weeks ago, but couldn't go in because I had a coffee in my hand. You've given me a reason to drink my coffee faster.
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Goodness. I'm so behind compared to these heavy weights. I'm still in kindergarten Odyssey. Mr. Stak inadvertently influenced me to go back to this book with real gusto. I have never been so amazed by words.
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I completed my rendezvous with Jane. I'm so pleased that you and Blixa coaxed me into reading it again. It was really very good. The plot is a little labored but the prose is flawless: all ivory and lace. I knew I liked ivory, but I surprised myself by enjoying the lace.
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Morley wrote:Image

I completed my rendezvous with Jane. I'm so pleased that you and Blixa coaxed me into reading it again. It was really very good. The plot is a little labored but the prose is flawless: all ivory and lace. I knew I liked ivory, but I surprised myself by enjoying the lace.


YAY!!!!!

In Jeanette Winterson's autobiographically-influenced first novel, Oranges Are Not the Only Fruit, she tells of her Pentacostal mother altering her copy of Jane Eyre so that it ends with Jane and St. John's presumed marriage. She later discovers her mother's deceit.
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Morley,

I cried at the end of that story. It is the only book I've ever read and cried about. I have never before felt like I was actually in the story as much as I did with this one. Granted, I'm biased towards a lot of things regarding this story, themes, setting, and the author.
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Blixa,

That is interesting about the changed ending. I recall reading about how the critics didn't like her ending either. I really love reading about the criticisms contemporary to her time.

Isn't the drawing of Charlotte lovely?
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Blixa,

After Brooksie, I'm going Jude!

This:

Another major thematic focus of the novel is the issue of fixed class boundaries, particularly with regard to access to higher education for students from the working class.

Another parallel between the book's characters/themes and Hardy's actual life experience occurs when Sue becomes obsessed with religion after previously having been indifferent and even hostile towards it. Through this extreme change in the character of Sue, Hardy shows Christianity as an extraordinarily powerful social force that is capable of causing a seemingly independent-minded woman like Sue to be self-immolating and sexually repressed.


...is very interesting to me.
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Books I read and have reread

The Philosophy of Friendship
The Devil Drives (life of explorer Richard Burton)
The Brain that Changes Itself(note his research on the perils of looking at porn)
Kierkegaard:A Introduction

I submitted a list of books in my librarything.com and found I have some common books with the likes of Brant Gardiner. Have you ever noticed when you check a book out on amazon that often people share a group of common books they are interested in.
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