Damage Done by the Right-Wing Media in 2016

[_huckelberry]

Hey Huck!

Ceeboo, I feel sure that I do not fit these things. I am not a leftist. I however support a fair amount of liberal political policy. I generally support democratic candidates.

I'm curious (I'm not playing a trick/game with you. I promise - just curious) - Do yo think the democratic party is currently being run and controlled by leftists? In other words - Do you think they have taken over the party (or are starting to take over the party)?

I'm asking for your opinion because you said you vote democrat quite often and I wonder if this (if you believe it's happening) is concerning to you in any way.

Ceeboo, in general my answer would be no. However the major political party at least connects to close to half the people in the country. That would include some leftists. Leftist are more prevalent in academic institutions than in the public at large. That is why some extremist pops up in the news every so often at such and such U. I have some concern that universities remain places of free exchange and conflict of ideas.

[_DarkHelmet]

If you regard America as corrupt, oppressive and patriarchal - You're probably a leftist.
If you believe that all sex differences are socially constructed - You're probably a leftists.
If you see "white privilege" everywhere and you don't see "American privilege" anywhere, You're probably a leftist.
If you believe that the equality of outcome matters more than the equality of opportunity - You're probably a leftist.
If you believe in racial segregation (black only dorms - black only graduations) - You're probably a leftist.
If you are opposed to capitalism and embrace socialism - You're probably a leftist
If you see two people who are not similarly situated and immediately suggest that any imbalance between them must be due to some structural/social force and this demands government involvement to rectify a change - You're probably a leftist.
If you believe race in intrinsically significant - You're probably a leftist.
If you believe in micro-aggressions, you're probably a leftist.
If you see Shakespear as a dead white male and that should be removed from English degree courses because he represents underlying oppression - You're probably a leftists.
If you separate people into two groups - oppressors and victims - You're probably a leftist.
If you believe in the 71 gender options currently available - You're probably a leftist

I'll add a few more:

If you believe human caused CO2 emissions are the primary cause of global warming, you might be a leftist.
If you support gay marriage, you might be a leftist.
If you are living in the year 1950, and you think black people should have rights, you might be a leftist.
If you are living in the 1850s and you think slavery should be abolished, you might be a leftist.
If you are living in the 1690s and you don't believe in witches, you might be a leftist.
If you are living in 30AD, and you believe that with the exception of the roads, sanitation, public order, the aqueducts, and public health, the Romans haven't done anything for the common man, you might be a leftist.

[_Gunnar]

And yet I was just talking to a friend yesterday who still thinks, to this day, that Clinton is as corrupt as Drumpf.

Well, at least your friend recognizes that Trump himself is corrupt. Is this a recent improvement in your friend's position, or has your friend long recognized that? I hope that friend recognizes that even if it were true that Clinton is as corrupt as Trump, that in no way justifies continuing to support Trump.

Right-wing media and the GOP are in lock step in terms of shamelessly lying to their base, and their base eats it up. They've even got lemmings like Ceeboo calling racism "leftist."LOL

I think Ceeboo is or wants to be, at heart, a decent, fair-minded person, and I doubt he is actually stupid. I think it is unfortunate that he seems to swallow so much of the hard or alt right bovine excrement, but I have hopes that he will eventually figure out just how badly he has been duped by Trump and his ilk, and moderate his position at least somewhat.

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[_Ceeboo]

Right-wing media and the GOP are in lock step in terms of shamelessly lying to their base, and their base eats it up. They've even got lemmings like Ceeboo calling racism "leftist."LOL

I think Ceeboo is or wants to be, at heart, a decent, fair-minded person, and I doubt he is actually stupid. I think it is unfortunate that he seems to swallow so much of the hard or alt right bovine excrement, but I have hopes that he will eventually figure out just how badly he has been duped by Trump and his ilk, and moderate his position at least somewhat.

Awesome!

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing- ... el-baboons

I'll save you a click. GOP chick calls NFL players baboons and thinks there'll be a race war. I'm fairly certain homeboy in Florida knew what he was saying. It'll be interesting how that race pans out.

- Doc

[_EAllusion]

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/404501-local-gop-official-called-nfl-players-who-kneel-baboons

I'll save you a click. GOP chick calls NFL players baboons and thinks there'll be a race war. I'm fairly certain homeboy in Florida knew what he was saying. It'll be interesting how that race pans out.

- Doc

I'll one up you. A DHS immigration policy analyst who got to attend high level immigration policy meetings was invited to a dinner party advertised as "judenfrei," a term Nazis used to refer to areas cleansed of Jews. He replied, "They don't call it Freitag for nothing!" talked about looking forward to meeting up with a literal Nazi party leader, then went to that party. His associations with white nationalists don't end there. He also wrote dozens of articles for publications like National Review, The Daily Caller, and The Hill.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/na ... 8e07aa9700

The admin's approach to this story is to downplay his role and distance themselves from him like his hiring was a total aberration. Whoopsee. While weirdos occasionally make it through all admins, this probably is not just a total random happenstance. But that requires you to reason with background context, such as what the admin advocates, who it allies with, and just how many other overt white nationalists have been caught in positions in the admin.

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

It IS an interesting quandary, the state in which the GOP finds itself. For example, I believe ceeboo and totally get where he's coming from, him as a Conservative, to want to move to a post-racial America. I share a lot of his sentiments because having spent some time in the Army, where more often than not I think people worked toward a sort of uniformity of interpersonal regard, brought about by the mission, despite the extremist here and there that would be identified and put out. I think it's possible for the GOP to get there, but boy have they went the wrong way when they all these guys not only existing within the organization, but being so comfortable that they'd openly dog whistle or just flat out state what they're thinking.

The GOP ought to, purely out of a self-preservation point of view (if it's not a moral one for them), develop comprehensive and institutionalized reform where racism isn't tolerated, and frankly, if I were in the Party, I'd really be pushing recruitment among various racial and ethnic groups. I'm sure there's outreach, but what I'm suggesting is they basically reorient their entire platform to bring everyone in while 100% kicking racists out. The latter can form their own 3rd party if they're disenfranchised and not really hurt the GOP's bottom line, in my opinion.

- Doc

[_ajax18]

The idea that DeSantis meant anything racist by "monkey around," is just the Democrats going to their race card playbook which is going to be futile for them in this election. I seriously doubt a democratic socialist like Gillum is going to win in Florida, though it is appalling that he has any support at all given his radical communist platform. The truth is that Latinos like De Santis are the kind of people that will ultimately save Florida from the state income taxes that citizens of other states suffer and perhaps even finally get our borders enforced. I can't say enough good about DeSantis and I'm supposedly a racist who hates latinos. We're not just coexisting in the Republican party. This is the coalition that will ultimately save the conservative movement.

[_EAllusion]

Ajax, a literal Nazi sympathizer who thinks blacks are morally inferior to whites due to biology and favors a white ethnostate, describes himself as "supposedly a racist."