"2 Inks" Gee criticises scholarly standards of JSP Project

[_Shulem]

While the production values are still top notch, the actual content is substandard. ErrorsProblems fill the volume, including upside-down misplaced photographs and numerous transcription errors questionable transcriptions beyond the more than two hundred places where the editors admitted they could not read the documents. For this particular volume, producing it incorrectly is arguably worse than not producing it at all.

Error? Error?

[_mentalgymnast]

MG,

Can any of the Church's egyptologists translate the English version of the Facsimile Explanations back into original Egyptian?

U ain't gonna get anything out of wormy.

Ignoring the pejorative, I did respond. And I would have with or without your slimy comment.

Worms, yuck.

Regards,
MG

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

MG,

Can any of the Church's egyptologists translate the English version of the Facsimile Explanations back into original Egyptian?

- Doc

Straight across one to one correlation? No.

Why doesn't this cause a lightbulb to go on in your head?

- Doc

[_Lemmie]

Tom, thanks for marking and posting that comparison. Very interesting.

Everybody Wang Chung:

....sounds like Gee and the Interpreter were admonished by the Church?

It seems so.

[_fetchface]

Joseph Smith: "King Pharaoh, whose name is given in the characters above his head"
Actual translation of characters above head: "Isis the great, the god's mother"

Jesus Christ, there is nothing to defend when it comes to the Book of Abraham. If you can't see this, then there is no evidence whatsoever that will convince you that the Book of Abraham is false; at that point you have abondoned reason completely. No Egyptology degree necessary to figure this crap out.

[_Shulem]

Ignoring the pejorative, I did respond. And I would have with or without your slimy comment.

Worms, yuck.

Regards,
MG

Right, exactly! You're yucky.

[_Fence Sitter]

Jensen's view is one of divine origin also, but you would know that if you had taken the time to actually listed to what he says.

Perhaps you could provide a constructive commentary of Vogel's views regarding the time line of the production of the Book of Abraham vis a vis Gee's and explain why you believe one over the other, rather than simply name calling and hoping no one calls you on it.

In Lindsay's piece he attempts to show that there may be a problem with the timeline that Jensen and Hauglid seem to support.

https://latterdaysaintmag.com/dealing-w ... f-abraham/

That timeline is crucial. GAEL and Book of Abraham. Chicken or the egg?

Regards,
MG

So no, you can't provide any commentary defending a timeline and why but prefer to criticized based on others telling you Vogel can't be trusted.

"Oh No! It's Dan Vogel! It must be wrong!!!"

[_Shulem]

Appreciation of the Book of Abraham can increase by learning that the once ridiculed idea of Egyptian priests offering human sacrifice has been shown to have significant support, in part from Kerry Muhlestein’s Ph.D. dissertation and related publications.

Jeff Lindsay just doesn't get it. He's stupid. You can't take a white man's head and stick it on a black man's body. No amount of Muhlestein apologetics is going to make that right. Joseph Smith screwed up. He was uninspired. He was moved upon by a bad spirit that was formulating wrong thinking in his bombastic mind.

Everything about the Explanations of Facsimile No. 1 is wrong -- totally, wrong. Muhlestein is a damned worm and Gee is a snake.

Bring both of those little pricks over here to Mormon Discussions and I'll bash them from one end of the board to the other and put an end to their careers.

Do you hear me, Gee?
Do you hear me Muhlestein?

You pricks! I'll kick both of your asses with one hand tied behind me back. I'll take you both on at the same time!

[_Shulem]

Joseph Smith: "King Pharaoh, whose name is given in the characters above his head"
Actual translation of characters above head: "Isis the great, the god's mother"

Jesus Christ, there is nothing to defend when it comes to the Book of Abraham. If you can't see this, then there is no evidence whatsoever that will convince you that the Book of Abraham is false; at that point you have abondoned reason completely. No Egyptology degree necessary to figure this crap out.

Facsimile No. 3?



You'll be hard pressed to get John Gee to speculate what specific king (by name and dynasty) offered his throne for Abraham (a vile Asiatic) to sit down upon and defile everything the Egyptians held dear.

You'll be even harder pressed to get Gee to explain why there is no royal name in the register. How about Gee scratch out the existing label and pencil in his own version! That's right, desecrate the papyrus. Joseph Smith did! So can you!

How about it Gee? If Joseph Smith can scrape off Anubis's nose then surely you can scrape off Isis' label and write in the king of your choice. Right?

You stupid idiot. Come here to Mormon Discussions so I can destroy your career. Surely I will do it!

[_Fence Sitter]

Not to mention that the "human sacrifices" Lindsay and Muhlestein are talking about have nothing to do with the Egyptians killing someone because of their religious beliefs, nor is the scene Facsimile#1 anything other than a typical reanimation scene.

Frankly they could come up with an ancient text actually showing Abraham being sacrificed for his religious beliefs by the Egyptians and it would not change what the papyri Joseph Smith owned one bit. It's still just ordinary funerary documents that have nothing to do with Abraham.