They Come to America

[Gadianton]

I am not speaking for Hound, but Hound may not want the country to go in the direction that s/he suspects is likely to go if non-whites end up being the absolute majority.

If you want whites to be the majority y'all need to pump out a lot more kids. Consider polygamy or something. The West shares a common problem of economic progress resembling a Ponzi scheme. If you think of Tesla's share price, the net present value of all future dividends, which is at P/E 300, we're going to need a hell of a lot of drivers in the future. AI massively scaling efficiency to increase GDP with fewer workers won't put more people in Tesla's cars. The only way to get those drivers is by immigrants. Immigrants are are going to mostly be brown because Western white countries are victims of their own success, wealthy white people want fewer kids. And certainly, white kids brought up wealthy who are victims of growing inequality aren't going to go from playing endless video games mom and dad gave them to rearing ten kids on a farm and being dirt poor.

If you want to keep America white, then tax billionaires more, provide universal healthcare, and the shut the border, but expect Tesla's share price to crash because there won't be anywhere near enough drivers. The Koch brothers came very close to understanding this problem when they started pushing the idea that Japan, with its stagnation, had the best economy because of its insular population. The Western model is you can always backfill more people on the bottom to prop up fewer people at the top, and price that in now with high share prices, but it's becoming unsustainable. Illegal immigration is mostly a result of the right who has all the farmland and low-skill labor jobs and benefits by a labor force that has little bargaining rights. They're stuck between their bottom-feeder IQ base and their corporate interests.

So if you want to be white and racist and pro-'Merika and f the rest of the world, then study the economy of Japan as the Koch brothers did and behold the substantial tradeoffs that will keep your rich folk, including yourself and Whiskey and A-Mike, much poorer.

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My installer bit still hasn't got delivered, getting anxious.

[canpakes]

How will Biden’s statement be racist if Hound’s is not? Use Bill’s conditions above.

Thanks.

No idea retardo. No idea. Is there something you would like to say? Use the English language above.

This is your chance to say something. Because I damn sure did not say that Biden's statement is racist if Hound's is not. You pulled that assertion out of your damned ass, again. It never damned ends with your retarded logic and needling arguments.

OK. Here are two questions.

1. Is Biden’s statement ‘racist’?

2. Is the Hound account’s statement ‘racist’?

Points for Bill if he answers faster than you.

[Whiskey]

I am not speaking for Hound, but Hound may not want the country to go in the direction that s/he suspects is likely to go if non-whites end up being the absolute majority.

If you want whites to be the majority y'all need to pump out a lot more kids. Consider polygamy or something. The West shares a common problem of economic progress resembling a Ponzi scheme. If you think of Tesla's share price, the net present value of all future dividends, which is at P/E 300, we're going to need a hell of a lot of drivers in the future. AI massively scaling efficiency to increase GDP with fewer workers won't put more people in Tesla's cars. The only way to get those drivers is by immigrants. Immigrants are are going to mostly be brown because Western white countries are victims of their own success, wealthy white people want fewer kids. And certainly, white kids brought up wealthy who are victims of growing inequality aren't going to go from playing endless video games mom and dad gave them to rearing ten kids on a farm and being dirt poor.

If you want to keep America white, then tax billionaires more, provide universal healthcare, and the shut the border, but expect Tesla's share price to crash because there won't be anywhere near enough drivers. The Koch brothers came very close to understanding this problem when they started pushing the idea that Japan, with its stagnation, had the best economy because of its insular population. The Western model is you can always backfill more people on the bottom to prop up fewer people at the top, and price that in now with high share prices, but it's becoming unsustainable. Illegal immigration is mostly a result of the right who has all the farmland and low-skill labor jobs and benefits by a labor force that has little bargaining rights. They're stuck between their bottom-feeder IQ base and their corporate interests.

So if you want to be white and racist and pro-'Merika and f the rest of the world, then study the economy of Japan as the Koch brothers did and behold the substantial tradeoffs that will keep your rich folk, including yourself and Whiskey and A-Mike, much poorer.

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My installer bit still hasn't got delivered, getting anxious.

Close. Almost. Very good and very close and very almost.

It is amazing, Gad. When you are not hallucinating other people's thoughts, your writing flows well.

Back to the content. All good. Up to the point of calling the Kochs part of the right which I think you did. Not sure. That is like calling Mitch McConnell, George Bush and Governor Cox part of the right. Makes no sense. None. They are part of something. A uniparty grift maybe. But not the right. They are neither populist nor right. They are just your machine grifting shitbirds.

[Some Schmo]

It's pretty funny that I merely make a comment pointing out that racist sentiment is stupid, and this happened. Why would anyone be defensive about that comment? If it doesn't apply to you, wouldn't you ignore it?

I mean... what more needs to be said?

[Whiskey]

It's pretty funny that I merely make a comment pointing out that racist sentiment is stupid, and this happened. Why would anyone be defensive about that comment? If it doesn't apply to you, wouldn't you ignore it?

I mean... what more needs to be said?

That was not your mere comment, you idiot. Go back and find your complete and exact comment.

[bill4long]

Biden’s comment asserts that the addition of non-white population is a positive thing. This can mean that there is additional benefit with cultural diversity but does not carry the racist implication that any particular culture is lessened, destroyed or more important.

Reminder: you flung a critical accusation at Hound: "That sounds like a weird racist hangup if ever I heard one."

Was Biden making a "weird" statement based on a "racist hangup" or not? What's the difference?

Do you agree with his statement? And did you vote for him? (Third attempt.)

The Hound account argues that the addition of non-whites is negative because it destroys white culture, implying the negative outcome of a presupposition and without defining what destruction means or whatever white culture is.

Hound explicitly mentioned "whiteness" being "destroyed." I'll assume that Hound meant destruction of the white race and whatever he perceives white culture to be. Whatever it is, how is his concern any more "weird" and "hung up" than Biden's wish to make whites an absolute minority? I suspect the answer comes down to your political persuasion. Which is understandable. But do forgive others who disagree with you if they fling insults right back at you for being weird, hungup and hypocritical.

[canpakes]

Hey, Bill. The Hound account left a reply for you which I accidentally jammed the delete button on when I added a reply but then deleted it. I have an image of it, though, so that you can reply:

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Shades should be able to restore the post to the appropriate point in the thread timeline shortly.

On to your questions:

Biden’s comment asserts that the addition of non-white population is a positive thing. This can mean that there is additional benefit with cultural diversity but does not carry the racist implication that any particular culture is lessened, destroyed or more important.

Reminder: you flung a critical accusation at Hound: "That sounds like a weird racist hangup if ever I heard one."

Was Biden making a "weird" statement based on a "racist hangup" or not? What's the difference?

If you believe that Biden’s comment is racist, and you see no difference between it and Hound’s statement, then you’re telling me that you see Hound’s statement as a weird racist hangup.

Do you agree with his statement?

This is the full quote:

“Folks like me who are Caucasian of European descent for the first time in 2017 will be in an absolute minority in the United States of America. Absolute minority. Fewer than 50% of the people in America from then and on will be white, European stock. That’s not a bad thing. That’s a source of our strength.”

I don’t have a reason to disagree with the conclusion. I don’t see it as racist, either, because Biden is not asserting a zero-sum valuation of one culture versus another nor has he disparaged any culture.

And did you vote for him? (Third attempt.)

A third attempt at trying to distract from the topic?

The Hound account argues that the addition of non-whites is negative because it destroys white culture, implying the negative outcome of a presupposition and without defining what destruction means or whatever white culture is.

Hound explicitly mentioned "whiteness" being "destroyed." I'll assume that Hound meant destruction of the white race and whatever he perceives white culture to be. Whatever it is, how is his concern any more "weird" and "hung up" than Biden's wish to make whites an absolute minority?

You’re tried to reframe what Biden said to match your claim that he “wish(ed) to make whites an absolute minority”. You’ll have to make a better case than a bad reading of English. Whiskey would say that you’re imagining things there.

And can you can explain why that’s threatening to you, if it is? Maybe mull it over during your next bowl of chips and salsa down at Condados.

I suspect the answer comes down to your political persuasion. Which is understandable. But do forgive others who disagree with you if they fling insults right back at you for being weird, hungup and hypocritical.

I don’t mind folks flinging insults my way. I’d expect to see it from the folks who wrap themselves up in angst over ‘white culture’ being ‘replaced’ when they get questioned on that and end up being unable to even explain what that means.

[Whiskey]

Hey, Bill. The Hound account left a reply for you which I accidentally jammed the delete button on when I added a reply but then deleted it. I have an image of it, though, so that you can reply:

You are killing me smalls. C'mon man. panny, you need to warn us when you post crap like this. If we laugh while eating for example, it could be dangerous.

[canpakes]

Hey, Bill. The Hound account left a reply for you which I accidentally jammed the delete button on when I added a reply but then deleted it. I have an image of it, though, so that you can reply:

You are killing me smalls. C'mon man. panny, you need to warn us when you post crap like this. If we laugh while eating for example, it could be dangerous.

Just eating can be dangerous, at your age. : D

[Some Schmo]

Just eating can be dangerous, at your age. : D

Your patience with the assisted living, diaper-wearing dementia types on this board is remarkable. Good on you, sir.

ETA: I wonder if these out-of-touch boomer types will ever hear the word "racism" without assuming people are talking about them. Probably not. I'm guessing the guilty conscience and defensiveness still haunts what little is left of their awareness.