Rules of Patheos: Midgley appears to violate TOS 10x

[_Jersey Girl]

Author? Midgley?

Yes, sorry. I was too shocked to do my normal documentation. On the other hand, the fact that you recognized the ghoul says is all.

Yeah and I didn't use the link you supplied either. I rarely look in there.

“You’re a MEAN one, Mr. Midge.”

Who talks about being pleased to hear that thoughts of your mean-spiritedness tortured someone’s final moments of life? Even Mob movies tip-toe around that crap.

Um. I dunno. A socially maladapted narcissist? I'm just spit balling here.

[_Dr LOD]

Louis Midgley http://disq.us/p/291yrg1

And please keep in mind that Dr. Velho Burrinho, which alias means Little Old Donkey--he also goes by Dr. LOD on a certain board--began insisting last October on sic et non that I have made all of this sort of thing up and then tried to force the Maori to adopt what I have invented. The Donkey has continued to do this as recently as ten days ago on Gina Colvin's Kiwi Mormon blog. She has now resigned her membership in the Church of Jesus Christ, after becoming both an Anglican lay preacher, and also a newly minted member of the Community of Christ.

The "Professor" continues his Gina Colvin and Donkey obsessions.

To the rest of his post. Obviously Professor Midgley and the LDS church didn't force the Maori to believe anything. But they did push and promote a imaginary made up story of the origin of the two continents of people and Polynesia to support their religious narrative. It is still cultural appropriation at its finest. If he is going to say I am a Lamanite because I am Native American, I reserve the right to call BS, on the racist stories that led him to such a belief.

[_Lemmie]

Louis Midgley Sam LeFevre 3 hours ago

It it had been the Maori Rongo, or the Hawaiian Lono, it would have been both amusing and also a bit authentic.
I think that I failed to mention that the very eminent, kindly and well-informed Dr. Vehlo Burrinho insists that I have fashioned a Maori world out of thin air and then tried to force the Maori Latter-day Saints to adopt what I had invented so that I can have a kind of trophy Maori to bolster my own faith.

Eight days ago he the Donkey accused me of a "racist explanation of the Maori" in essays in which I set out the nineteenth century Maori Latter-day Saint historical narrative. He claims that I "have appropriated their culture and made the Maori People into faith promoting mascots, in a vain and weak attempt to support" my own "personal belief system." Then he complained that I had "leveled the claim that" he "was being 'racially hostile to the Maori' for saying this."

The Donkey's parting shot was as follows: "No, Sir your actions are the only racist and hostile actions to be found."
Professor Peterson has witnessed my "racist and hostile actions" toward Maori Latter-day Saints even in New Zealand yet.

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/danpeters ... 4901651648

Oh look, another lie from Lou-Lou the Midge-faced Boy, cowardly attacking a fake story.

I’m chalking this up to a narcissist, feeling shamed and inadequate, who rather than dealing with the real situation, decides to obsessively create a straw man to attack. The Midgester is too afraid of his own inadequacies to respond directly to Dr LOD, so he responds to fake stuff, behind the skirts of his Mommy-protector. Both of whom were dismissed from the Maxwell Institute, I would imagine for nonsense exactly like this.

I left the LDS church because it is a fake religion, but I still appreciate the integrity and honesty of my family members. Louise Midgley is a horrible, horrible person, whose nasty mean-spiritedness would NEVER have been tolerated in my family. His kind of piggish mean-ness might be slightly acceptable in a toddler learning to deal with the real world, barely, but in an adult? How is this kind of behavior tolerated? What kind of family, LDS, Mormon or otherwise, tolerates an ass like this?

[_Jersey Girl]

How is this kind of behavior tolerated? What kind of family, LDS, Mormon or otherwise, tolerates an ass like this?

Well, obviously it's tolerated in families and groups of posters who never had a real testimony. If they did they wouldn't behave that way nor would it be tolerated.

[_moksha]

Moksha • a day ago
Is there any reason to believe people will be slow to return or will not return at all? I suppose frequent confessors can unload their burden at the Starbucks order counter and be given a pumpkin spice latte as penance.

Louis Midgley Moksha • 3 hours ago
Dunce is at it again.

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Why is Midgley such a miserable old coot? Most older non-apologist LDS people, that I know, are kind and nurturing. Is such nastiness the end result of practicing a life of LDS apologetics?

:question:

[_Lemmie]

Louis Midgley gemli 11 hours ago

gemli: "Chiasmus is not not unique to the Book of Mormon, as Gemli [sic gemli] explained in a comment above."

lcm: The fact is this is why Latter-day Saints see it as solid evidence that the Book of Mormon is an authentic ancient history. The existence of such a complicated literary pattern was not known* when the Book of Mormon was published. It was just over fifty years ago that anyone noticed that the Book of Mormon is full of chiasmus.

And critics have subsequently argued that it is in the Book of Mormon merely by accident. Some may even recall that this assertion soon become known as the Butthead argument.**

*First of all, Quinn’s footnote 108 goes into great detail showing not only that that is not true, but that J. Welch knew it was not true when he wrote otherwise.

**And second, is Midgley actually referring to the “Metcalfe is Butthead” phrase, almost distributed in a FARMS publication, until more intelligent heads prevailed and brought the printing to a stop?

I only knew the barebones of this story, but didn’t knew about the article that started it so I did a little reading, and found Midgley’s “apology” and an interesting reference to chiasmus, of sorts:

In 1994, an entire issue of the Review was devoted to a careful critical commentary on Metcalfe’s New Approaches to the Book of Mormon (Signature Books, 1993), with one additional essay by Bill Hamblin examining the essay by Brent Metcalfe, which had been published in 1993 in Dialogue. In that essay, Brent had argued, among other things, that the hosts of inverted parallelisms that are clearly in the Book of Mormon are merely accidental. To test this proposition, Hamblin fashioned an acrostic consisting of the first letter of each full paragraph that read “Metcalfe is Butthead.” The point of doing that, in addition to having a bit of quite harmless fun, was to demonstrate that complicated literary devices are not accidental but must be intentional....

Now I agree with those who at the time were involved with what was called FARMS that the particular message buried in that acrostic was tasteless and inappropriate. I also wish to apologize for whatever real, and not merely imagined offense, this might have been to Brent. All of those involved with the old FARMS and now the Maxwell Institute, of course, deeply regret any emotional strain this put upon Brent by that acrostic...

http://shields-research.org/WP/?p=38

Decent apology. Although how “a bit of harmless fun” can also be a “tasteless and inappropriate” “real ...offense” is beyond me.

Unfortunately the apology is obviated by Midgley’s referring to the assertion now as “the Butthead argument.”

[_Lemmie]

Moksha • a day ago
Is there any reason to believe people will be slow to return or will not return at all? I suppose frequent confessors can unload their burden at the Starbucks order counter and be given a pumpkin spice latte as penance.

Louis Midgley Moksha • 3 hours ago
Dunce is at it again.

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Why is Midgley such a miserable old coot? Most older non-apologist LDS people, that I know, are kind and nurturing. Is such nastiness the end result of practicing a life of LDS apologetics?

:question:

Ouch. I get the sense Midgley was a miserable coot even when he was young, if that’s any consolation.

[_Gadianton]

To the rest of his post. Obviously Professor Midgley and the LDS church didn't force the Maori to believe anything. But they did push and promote a imaginary made up story of the origin of the two continents of people and Polynesia to support their religious narrative. It is still cultural appropriation at its finest. If he is going to say I am a Lamanite because I am Native American, I reserve the right to call BS, on the racist stories that led him to such a belief.

Very well said, Doctor.

And by the way, independent of what anybody else has said or hasn't said, his statement about converting a Maori to hold up as a trophy understates the reality. He shot for true greatness: a nation of Maori grateful to him, the great white missionary for bringing them the truth about their identity.

[_Dr LOD]

Very well said, Doctor.

And by the way, independent of what anybody else has said or hasn't said, his statement about converting a Maori to hold up as a trophy understates the reality. He shot for true greatness: a nation of Maori grateful to him, the great white missionary for bringing them the truth about their identity.

Thanks,

You pretty much described the true nature of many of the Mopologetic individuals, which is the selfish drawing attention to oneself from those in authority. Anyone who can't give these individuals that type of self aggrandizing feedback is unimportant only to be used.

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

Louis is whining about Dan Peterson pointing out his stolen valor:

"Incidentally, Professor Midgley, somewhere I've seen one or two of these same fine anonymous individuals accusing you of having lied not only about your graduate studies but about your military service. You're evidently guilty of "stolen valor," in the manner of a politician who makes up false stories about his years as a warrior (e.g., https://www.nytimes.com/201...."

In a somewhat appropriately amusing mistake, Mr. Peterson posts a broken link. This, however, doesn't excuse what Mr. Midgley has been doing with regard to 'stolen valor' when he tacitly admits he used to do just that:

"I almost want to see the claim that I have "stolen valour" by making up my having been drafted and sent to Fort Ord and then managing to survive that experience, and so forth. My kids would love to know that I made all that up and that my wife was in on the fabrication. They would be stunned to find out that I managed to fake all those slides that I sometimes forced them to watch, and invented all those stories that I told, with Ireta, of course, playing alone."

To reiterate:

"... AND INVENTED ALL THOSE STORIES I TOLD..."

Freud couldn't have created created a slip so large if he had tried.

Whatever the case may be, stolen valor, as we know, isn't just lying about whether or not you made it to Boot Camp, but what stories you invented about your service that you tell others. Louis C. Midgley is, in fact, guilty of stealing valor that wasn't his, creating stories that don't add up, and who's service, where he admitted to going AWOL with his young male companion, is documented fact.

I also want to point out how odd it is that Louis' service isn't a part of his official bio nor his wiki page. That's a HUGE gap in personal history that's just too odd to not notice. Something's up with his service. I strongly urge Louis post his DD-214 so we can at least see if he finished his tour with honor.

- Doc