From My Informant: DCP & Schryver Ordered to Stand Down

[_Jason Bourne]

The Shryver issue has no bearing on Peterson. My "informant" is not shady, in the back room nor looking for any excuse to commit character assassination .

But I don't care really. Scratch has his cadre of followers here who drool at any innuendo he makes no matter how far fetched. It is why I rarely enter into the fray of his farfetched fantasy threads.

[_Simon Belmont]

Yes. The one about Scott Gordon meeting w/ Elder Oaks was true.

Not in the way you think it was.

[_Kishkumen]

Yes. The one about Scott Gordon meeting w/ Elder Oaks was true.

Not in the way you think it was.

Wow, scathing rebuttal.

[_Simon Belmont]

These people actually believe in a man-god that lives on a planet with his polygamous wives making babies. For eternity. And they believe they can become just like him.

And this is why apostates become apostates. They have absolutely no idea what we believe. If First Sergeant Gottagetinshape actually believes that Mormons believe what he claims, he is more dim than I imagines him to be.

[_Kishkumen]

They have absolutely no idea what we believe.

I never saw that coming. Talk about original.

How many times has this exchange occurred? It is like an infinite echo machine.

And yet again, for the umpteen-thousandth time, an apologist tells an apostate s/he did not understand Mormonism.

Yawn.

[_Paul Osborne]

Kishie,

The apologists are mad at us. They consider us the dregs of the world because we reject what they still hold dear. Simon may tell you that you don't understand or have a clue about Mormonism but his anger stems from the fact that he knows you know as much as he knows and that since you don't care about what he knows it causes him to be angry.

Oh, yes, I knew and know about Mormonism. I saw the picture and lived it. I felt the things Simon does and you can magnify them a few times if you care. Damn, I felt that Mormon Holy Ghost!

The apologists are angry men. They seek to destroy us for telling the truth as we see it. The apologists are murderers of the heart.

Paul O

[_Darth J]

These people actually believe in a man-god that lives on a planet with his polygamous wives making babies. For eternity. And they believe they can become just like him.

And this is why apostates become apostates. They have absolutely no idea what we believe. If First Sergeant Gottagetinshape actually believes that Mormons believe what he claims, he is more dim than I imagines him to be.

This must be synchronicity. Right when I was talking about it on another thread, Simon Belmont demonstrates specific ignorance of church doctrine and the teachings of Joseph Smith----the man whom he knows more about perhaps any other living person. Although it is unclear whether there is more than one Heavenly Mother married to Elohim, let's see if Simon Belmont is right that Doctor CamNC4Me has absolutely no idea what "we" believe about exaltation:

Gospel Principles, Chapter 47: Exaltation

Our Heavenly Father is perfect. However, he is not jealous of his wisdom and perfection. He glories in the fact that it is possible for his children to become like him. He has said, "This is my work and my glory--to bring to pass the immortality and eternal life of man" (Moses 1:39).

Those who receive exaltation in the celestial kingdom through faith in Jesus Christ will receive special blessings. The Lord has promised, "All things are theirs" (D&C 76:59). These are some of the blessings given to exalted people:

1. They will live eternally in the presence of Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ (see D&C 76).
2. They will become gods.
3. They will have their righteous family members with them and will be able to have spirit children also. These spirit children will have the same relationship to them as we do to our Heavenly Father. They will be an eternal family.
4. They will receive a fulness of joy.
5. They will have everything that our Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ have--all power, glory, dominion, and knowledge. President Joseph Fielding Smith wrote: "The Father has promised through the Son that all that he has shall be given to those who are obedient to his commandments. They shall increase in knowledge, wisdom, and power, going from grace to grace, until the fulness of the perfect day shall burst upon them" (Doctrines of Salvation, 2:36).
..........

The Prophet Joseph Smith taught: "When you climb up a ladder, you must begin at the bottom, and ascend step by step, until you arrive at the top; and so it is with the principles of the Gospel--you must begin with the first, and go on until you learn all the principles of exaltation. But it will be a great while after you have passed through the veil [died] before you will have learned them. It is not all to be comprehended in this world; it will be a great work to learn our salvation and exaltation even beyond the grave" (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 348).

This is the way our Heavenly Father became God. Joseph Smith taught: "It is the first principle of the Gospel to know for a certainty the character of God. . . . He was once a man like us; . . . God himself, the Father of us all, dwelt on an earth, the same as Jesus Christ himself did" (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, pp. 345-46).

P.S. Simon Belmont:

Is it official LDS doctrine that God the Father lives on a planet?

(a) Yes
(b) No

Is it official LDS doctrine that we (the human race) have at least one Heavenly Mother?

(a) Yes
(b) No

[_Kishkumen]

Well, if you reach the wrong (in their eyes) conclusion, you must have misunderstood.

How any reasonable person could believe that human spirituality could be reduced to such simplistic formulae is astounding to me.

[_Doctor Scratch]

Yes. The one about Scott Gordon meeting w/ Elder Oaks was true.

Not in the way you think it was.

Oh? What way did I "think it was"?

[_Paul Osborne]

Well, if you reach the wrong (in their eyes) conclusion, you must have misunderstood.

How any reasonable person could believe that human spirituality could be reduced to such simplistic formulae is astounding to me.

But we have the advantage. We've been there and done that. They are still in square one. We've advanced while they still remain in their holier-than-thou zealous state.

Being an apostate is like advancing to a higher level and achieving greater degrees of knowledge. The apologists remains a retard. The apologists are pretty limited and are held back.

Paul O