Droopy wrote:Give me a single example, just one, of a core, essential truth claim of the Church, especially the claims as to its origins, that Harmony accepts as true and as traditionally taught by the Church.
Just one would do.
That Heavenly Father looks like a man.
(Nevo, Jan 23) And the Melchizedek Priesthood may not have been restored until the summer of 1830, several months after the organization of the Church.
moksha wrote:Can we all not agree that letting go of highly speculative and suspect doctrines is a good thing? Saying we do not know is a good start for any reform. We have Christianity at our core, maybe we could concentrate on that essential. Make the world a better place to live.
I think a better start would be to put Christianity (and all other religious beliefs) to one side and make the world a better place by just helping others because we want to and because we can. Not because some Bee Gee looking Dude has commanded it.
“We look to not only the spiritual but also the temporal, and we believe that a person who is impoverished temporally cannot blossom spiritually.” Keith McMullin - Counsellor in Presiding Bishopric
"One, two, three...let's go shopping!" Thomas S Monson - Prophet, Seer, Revelator
Droopy wrote:Give me a single example, just one, of a core, essential truth claim of the Church, especially the claims as to its origins, that Harmony accepts as true and as traditionally taught by the Church.
Just one would do.
harmony wrote:That Heavenly Father looks like a man.
Drifting wrote:I think a better start would be to put Christianity (and all other religious beliefs) to one side and make the world a better place by just helping others because we want to and because we can. Not because some Bee Gee looking Dude has commanded it.
The world being a better place is the destination. The means of conveyance is of your choosing.
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In regards to the Jason-Droopy argument, are these guys being true to their beliefs or... or simply denying their senses?