Rosalynde Welch takes on Mormon Stories

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consiglieri wrote:
Droopy wrote:
The cookies are crumbling.

Try to enjoy the daylight.


How come I never know what Droopy is talking about?


Don't worry consig, nobody does. And when I do understand him, I tend to regret it.
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Bob Loblaw wrote:I don't give an aerial intercourse

I'm stealing this.
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From the very beginning, there was a considerable amount of negative response from some Naclers to John Dehlin's work. To be fair, first, it was not all Naclers and John also has good friends among Nacle authors.

Second, we were also taken aback when John reached out to us on FLAK. So it was not just Naclers who had issues.

However, on FLAK we objected to John's agenda, which was to keep people whose faith had been shaken active. The Bloggernacle critics seemed to be irritated that they did not know John, that he assembled a considerable audience in a short time, that he had some success with a new media, and that he did not emerge from their fold.

Perhaps, I am doing the Naclers an injustice but that was my impression at the time.
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Embarrassing spelling mistake: yes, yes, you impale yourself on your own SWORD, not sort. LOL
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Droopy wrote:
John Dehlin has both email and a phone. Have you contacted him to exhort, expound, and teach him? Or are you simply showboating in public to prove what a righteous tough guy you are to your fellow moon bats and self-appointed Danites? Drop the self-righteous posturing Droopy. We know that your sickly ego is the reason you are here, not the salvation of John Dehlin or anyone else. You exhibit no caring, compassion, selflessness, or Christlike love. You are helping neither yourself nor anyone else. Your pretense at defending the faith is a travesty and a denial of Christ's perfect love.


You have no idea about me, what I'm like, my motives, my life, or anything else beyond what an evil little pustule like Scratch has fed you in his own mad clawing grasp at credibility.

The above paragraph is ample evidence that that paragraph's contents are nothing more than a wild, flailing exercise in projection, something that defines the exmo world of woe, as perhaps nothing else does.

I am afraid that Kishkumen is on to something. Your words justify his conclusions.

If you mean to say something else, you should do that. But until you do, Kishkumen is interpreting your behavior correctly, I am afraid.
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Hellmut wrote:From the very beginning, there was a considerable amount of negative response from some Naclers to John Dehlin's work. To be fair, first, it was not all Naclers and John also has good friends among Nacle authors.

Second, we were also taken aback when John reached out to us on FLAK. So it was not just Naclers who had issues.

However, on FLAK we objected to John's agenda, which was to keep people whose faith had been shaken active. The Bloggernacle critics seemed to be irritated that they did not know John, that he assembled a considerable audience in a short time, that he had some success with a new media, and that he did not emerge from their fold.

Perhaps, I am doing the Naclers an injustice but that was my impression at the time.


It is true that John has occupied a kind of middle ground that arouses suspicion and yet obviously meets the needs of a sizable minority of Mormons at certain points of their faith journey.
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Kishkumen wrote:It is true that John has occupied a kind of middle ground that arouses suspicion and yet obviously meets the needs of a sizable minority of Mormons at certain points of their faith journey.

Yes, but that is also true of many Naclers and some of them are John's friends. I would have expected though that he would have had less trouble with that group.
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Hellmut wrote:Yes, but that is also true of many Naclers and some of them are John's friends. I would have expected though that he would have had less trouble with that group.


He certainly got a rough reception on FLAK.
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Bob Loblaw wrote:
Hellmut wrote:Yes, but that is also true of many Naclers and some of them are John's friends. I would have expected though that he would have had less trouble with that group.


He certainly got a rough reception on FLAK.


I have found it interesting that John's most ardent detractors are ultra-TBMs and . . . hmm let me think of a nice way to put this . . . passionate exmos. The one belief that people in both camps have in common is that there is no middle ground.
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Cicero wrote:I have found it interesting that John's most ardent detractors are ultra-TBMs and . . . hmm let me think of a nice way to put this . . . passionate exmos. The one thing that people in both camps have in common is that there is no middle ground.


Mormons think he's trying to destroy the church. Ex-Mormons think he's too supportive of the church.

If both sides hate you, maybe you're doing something right.
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