Remembering Building 7

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BeNotDeceived wrote:
Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:16 pm
Marcus wrote:
Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:02 pm

This seems like prof. Jones' approach, yes?
Marcus, Dr. Jones was sent a container of the dust from the destruction of the twin towers from someone living in Manhattan after hearing about his research and hypothesis which was analyzed under electron microscopes at BYU where he discovered the red/gray chips of unexploded nano-thermate... there's no theory, conjecture or guess work to his findings and conclusions, only hard evidence.
So, we've already moved from "billions of microscopic red/gray chips scattered throughout the dust" to "identified by Dr. Jones in a jar of dust that someone who said they lived in Manhattan had collected. Any documentation or evidence that confirms the provenance of the dust? Have other experts been able to replicate this finding by examining other samples of dust? Have independent experts also identified the presence of the chips in the sample used by Dr. Jones? How did Dr. Jones conclude that the material was thermite? Has anyone else examined the material and identified it as something other than unexploded nano-thermite? What is nano-thermite? How is it different than thermite? Has anyone tested a nano-thermite explosion to see if it produced chips in dust like that found by Dr. Jones? Has any other expert reached a different conclusion than Dr. Jones? If so, what is the basis for reaching a different conclusion?
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Who else tested Dr. Jones’ samples?

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Doctor Steuss wrote:
Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:26 pm
BeNotDeceived wrote:
Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:25 pm
I don't think you need to be a rocket scientist to understand that molten steel should not be present in the basements of two 110 story buildings from an airplane hitting them...
Why wouldn't we expect this from a 100 ton projectile, traveling at 460mph, filled with tens of thousands of liters of combustible liquid? I've personally seen portions of a railroad rail that had melted from "rail-burnt" that was caused by nothing more than friction of the locomotive.

Heck a normal house fire (which has comparatively laughable insulative capability and fuel potential) can have flashover that reaches well above 3000 F.
Many of you need to take physics 101 to understand why your arguments don't hold any water. First off, the plane wasn't traveling at 460 mph at just 1,000 feet above ground level - ask any aviation expert what would happen to a plane traveling 460 mph 1,000 feet from the ground. Second, have the steel grates that hold your frying pan above an open flame ever melted on your stove? Or weakened? Jet fuel is 3/4 kerosene and does not burn with intense heat. Lastly, most of the jet fuel was consumed in the fireball outside the buildings and what didn't combust would have went into the towers as liquid and ignited fires inside or possibly gone down the elevator shafts, but tell me how a small amount of jet fuel can be sprayed into a building, travel 1,000 feet to ground level and then burn as molten steel? Even the first responder firefighters were perplexed by the sight of molten steel flowing like lava...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nwgkA5rlwKI
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:40 pm
Who else tested Dr. Jones’ samples?

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BND, please answer the question.

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BeNotDeceived wrote:
Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:16 pm
Doctor Steuss wrote:
Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:26 pm

Why wouldn't we expect this from a 100 ton projectile, traveling at 460mph, filled with tens of thousands of liters of combustible liquid? I've personally seen portions of a railroad rail that had melted from "rail-burnt" that was caused by nothing more than friction of the locomotive.

Heck a normal house fire (which has comparatively laughable insulative capability and fuel potential) can have flashover that reaches well above 3000 F.
Many of you need to take physics 101 to understand why your arguments don't hold any water. First off, the plane wasn't traveling at 460 mph at just 1,000 feet above ground level - ask any aviation expert what would happen to a plane traveling 460 mph 1,000 feet from the ground.
Ok, what would happen if a plane that has a take off speed of 150mph, and a cruising speed of 533mph, were to make a decent of several thousand feet per a minute, and fly into a building about 1,000 feet off the ground during that decent? According to any aviation expert?

How would a speed of 460mph for such a plane defy physics?
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Res Ipsa wrote:
Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:19 pm
BeNotDeceived wrote:
Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:16 pm

Marcus, Dr. Jones was sent a container of the dust from the destruction of the twin towers from someone living in Manhattan after hearing about his research and hypothesis which was analyzed under electron microscopes at BYU where he discovered the red/gray chips of unexploded nano-thermate... there's no theory, conjecture or guess work to his findings and conclusions, only hard evidence.
So, we've already moved from "billions of microscopic red/gray chips scattered throughout the dust" to "identified by Dr. Jones in a jar of dust that someone who said they lived in Manhattan had collected. Any documentation or evidence that confirms the provenance of the dust? Have other experts been able to replicate this finding by examining other samples of dust? Have independent experts also identified the presence of the chips in the sample used by Dr. Jones? How did Dr. Jones conclude that the material was thermite? Has anyone else examined the material and identified it as something other than unexploded nano-thermite? What is nano-thermite? How is it different than thermite? Has anyone tested a nano-thermite explosion to see if it produced chips in dust like that found by Dr. Jones? Has any other expert reached a different conclusion than Dr. Jones? If so, what is the basis for reaching a different conclusion?
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x33mwaz
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:29 pm
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:40 pm
Who else tested Dr. Jones’ samples?

- Doc
BND, please answer the question.

- Doc
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x33mwaz
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BeNotDeceived wrote: Marcus, Dr. Jones was sent a container of the dust from the destruction of the twin towers from someone living in Manhattan after hearing about his research and hypothesis which was analyzed under electron microscopes at BYU where he discovered the red/gray chips of unexploded nano-thermate... there's no theory, conjecture or guess work to his findings and conclusions, only hard evidence.
How did he know what color they were?
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BeNotDeceived wrote:
Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:16 pm
Doctor Steuss wrote:
Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:26 pm

Why wouldn't we expect this from a 100 ton projectile, traveling at 460mph, filled with tens of thousands of liters of combustible liquid? I've personally seen portions of a railroad rail that had melted from "rail-burnt" that was caused by nothing more than friction of the locomotive.

Heck a normal house fire (which has comparatively laughable insulative capability and fuel potential) can have flashover that reaches well above 3000 F.
Many of you need to take physics 101 to understand why your arguments don't hold any water. First off, the plane wasn't traveling at 460 mph at just 1,000 feet above ground level - ask any aviation expert what would happen to a plane traveling 460 mph 1,000 feet from the ground. Second, have the steel grates that hold your frying pan above an open flame ever melted on your stove? Or weakened? Jet fuel is 3/4 kerosene and does not burn with intense heat. Lastly, most of the jet fuel was consumed in the fireball outside the buildings and what didn't combust would have went into the towers as liquid and ignited fires inside or possibly gone down the elevator shafts, but tell me how a small amount of jet fuel can be sprayed into a building, travel 1,000 feet to ground level and then burn as molten steel? Even the first responder firefighters were perplexed by the sight of molten steel flowing like lava...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nwgkA5rlwKI
Now you are just recycling all the old debunked conspiracy theories. Why?
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