Possible Modern Source for the Book of Mormon

[_Gadianton]

mms...wow.

that is *very* interesting.

I will need to schedule the BoN some time with Torpedo4.

What's also interesting that it's on first nephi.

[_Spanner]

Chris writes that they think the Book of Napoleon influenced both the Late War and the Book of Mormon separately.

It would be cool to see some triple parallels: Napoleon phrases transmitted to the Book of Mormon through the Late War. If changes were made in Late War that then turned up in the Book of Mormon, that would be very interesting.

The parallels turned up so far are just so fascinating. At the very least they show that an early 19th century writer attempting to write a historical book in Jacobean English is going to use exactly the words and style that Joseph uses in the Book of Mormon.

Sadly my TBMs already believe in diabolical mimicry, so the parallels won't have any effect at all. Satan has already seeded the historical record with antiJoseph stuff, so this will just be more evidence of his handiwork.

[_Fifth Columnist]

The Johnson brothers are using a iterative source separation algorithm and it is showing that the Book of Mormon was influenced by the following books, in order of influence: the 1822 Koran, The First Book of Napolean, The Late War, The Rights of Christ, and Strengths in Weakness Manifest.

Here is a link to the graphic.
http://askreality.com/wp-content/upload ... eality.png

[_robuchan]

The Johnson brothers are using a iterative source separation algorithm and it is showing that the Book of Mormon was influenced by the following books, in order of influence: the 1822 Koran, The First Book of Napolean, The Late War, The Rights of Christ, and Strengths in Weakness Manifest.

Here is a link to the graphic.
http://askreality.com/wp-content/upload ... eality.png

The lighter the color the more the correlation? or the opposite?

[_Bazooka]

The updates the Johnsons are adding to their analysis are interesting and worth keeping an eye on:

http://askreality.com/hidden-in-plain-sight/#more-56

Here is something interesting they noted:

The First Book of Napoleon has hundreds of Book of Mormon parallels that do not show up in the Bible, here are just a few examples from the first few pages, notice the sequence:

condemn not the (writing) … an account … the First Book of Napoleon … upon the face of the earth … it came to pass … the land … their inheritances their gold and silver and … the commandments of the Lord … the foolish imaginations of their hearts … small in stature … Jerusalem … because of the perverse wickedness of the people
-Parallels in sequence, The First Book of Napoleon (from the first pages)

condemn not the (writing) … an account … the First Book of Nephi … upon the face of the earth … it came to pass … the land … his inheritance and his gold and his silver and … the commandments of the Lord … the foolish imaginations of his heart … large in stature … Jerusalem … because of the wickedness of the people
-Parallels in sequence, Book of Mormon / The First Book of Nephi (from the first pages)

*dingdingdingdingdingdingdingdingdingdingding*

[_Shulem]

There are several volunteers working on this as we speak. In the future, it will be possible for anyone to do computationally assisted textual analysis of the Book of Mormon (and other books).

For which I am grateful because through their efforts more people will come to know just how phoney the Book of Mormon really is. Pretty much all the church can do is take a step back and declare it is a test of faith. But here we see that faith and science quite often oppose each other but science will always win because faith is mostly a human construct in the mind. Just look at Nightlion! All the stuff he makes up in his own mind in declaring his faith. Utter delusion! I really think religion causes more harm than good. We don't need religion to be good people. It's basic human nature to want to be good and succeed.

Paul O

[_gramps]

The updates the Johnsons are adding to their analysis are interesting and worth keeping an eye on:

http://askreality.com/hidden-in-plain-sight/#more-56

Here is something interesting they noted:

The First Book of Napoleon has hundreds of Book of Mormon parallels that do not show up in the Bible, here are just a few examples from the first few pages, notice the sequence:

condemn not the (writing) … an account … the First Book of Napoleon … upon the face of the earth … it came to pass … the land … their inheritances their gold and silver and … the commandments of the Lord … the foolish imaginations of their hearts … small in stature … Jerusalem … because of the perverse wickedness of the people
-Parallels in sequence, The First Book of Napoleon (from the first pages)

condemn not the (writing) … an account … the First Book of Nephi … upon the face of the earth … it came to pass … the land … his inheritance and his gold and his silver and … the commandments of the Lord … the foolish imaginations of his heart … large in stature … Jerusalem … because of the wickedness of the people
-Parallels in sequence, Book of Mormon / The First Book of Nephi (from the first pages)

I don't know if I am salivating, or not. But, this is definitely delicious to the taste and very desirable.

[_Jake29]

Chris writes that they think the Book of Napoleon influenced both the Late War and the Book of Mormon separately.

It would be cool to see some triple parallels: Napoleon phrases transmitted to the Book of Mormon through the Late War. If changes were made in Late War that then turned up in the Book of Mormon, that would be very interesting.

The parallels turned up so far are just so fascinating. At the very least they show that an early 19th century writer attempting to write a historical book in Jacobean English is going to use exactly the words and style that Joseph uses in the Book of Mormon.

Sadly my TBMs already believe in diabolical mimicry, so the parallels won't have any effect at all. Satan has already seeded the historical record with antiJoseph stuff, so this will just be more evidence of his handiwork.

I have spent a few hours skimming through the Late War and the Book of Napoleon. I have also shared the books with a few of my more liberal Mormon friends. Their responses have been like mine. The books are eerily familiar to the Book of Mormon. You could honestly post verses from these books on Facebook and Mormons would not know the difference. They would "like" the verses . It would actually be a fun exercise. As most active Mormons I know are not very familiar with the content of the Book of Mormon I find that those parallels would not be as shocking to most members as the familiarity of the style itself. The contextual parallels have definitely been eye opening for me.

It has been fun to follow this thread. Thanks to all of those who have participated.

[_Jake29]

Oh, I should add one more thing. I have actually met Chris Johnson a few times. I was a gospel doctrine teacher in his mother's ward. I was always impressed with his character. He was dedicated to the church and was committed to living the gospel. Luckily for us, he was more committed to seeking the truth and humble enough to accept it when he found it. Some of the church's sharpest tools are no longer in its shed.

[_Tobin]

Oh, I should add one more thing. I have actually met Chris Johnson a few times. I was a gospel doctrine teacher in his mother's ward. I was always impressed with his character. He was dedicated to the church and was committed to living the gospel. Luckily for us, he was more committed to seeking the truth and humble enough to accept it when he found it. Some of the church's sharpest tools are no longer in its shed.

Oh, I'd quibble about the sharpness of this tool.