Is this ethical behavior?
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_Mad Viking
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Re: Is this ethical behavior?
Mad Viking wrote:Just curious.
It depends on whether you honestly believed it or not. It also may depend on the pressure and guidance that your father gives. Age and maturity come into play. Culture as well. And even if Smith's behavior was not ethical does this particular activity disqualify him from ever being called of God? What man or woman is perfect?
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_Scottie
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I agree with Jason. This is a very circumstantial question, especially when it comes to ethics.
You should never paint an ethical question in terms of black and white.
If me and my family were starving, and I saw an opportunity to sell my fake services to a fool so that I could put a loaf of bread on the table, then no, I don't think would be immoral.
If I were doing it simply because I was a good grifter, then yes, it would probably be immoral.
You should never paint an ethical question in terms of black and white.
If me and my family were starving, and I saw an opportunity to sell my fake services to a fool so that I could put a loaf of bread on the table, then no, I don't think would be immoral.
If I were doing it simply because I was a good grifter, then yes, it would probably be immoral.
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_Mad Viking
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Scottie wrote:If me and my family were starving, and I saw an opportunity to sell my fake services to a fool so that I could put a loaf of bread on the table, then no, I don't think would be immoral.
The intelligence of your victim determines the morality of the action? Have not still defrauded someone who did not deserve to be so? Look, am as willing as the next person to do whatever it takes to feed/protect my family. I am even willing to commit unethical and immoral acts to do so. But, I would never try and say that my actions weren't such just because of my motives.
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Mad Viking wrote:Scottie wrote:If me and my family were starving, and I saw an opportunity to sell my fake services to a fool so that I could put a loaf of bread on the table, then no, I don't think would be immoral.
The intelligence of your victim determines the morality of the action? Have not still defrauded someone who did not deserve to be so? Look, am as willing as the next person to do whatever it takes to feed/protect my family. I am even willing to commit unethical and immoral acts to do so. But, I would never try and say that my actions weren't such just because of my motives.
That's a good point. Performing unethical acts out of necessity doesn't make them any more unethical. It just means you might be more justified in doing them.
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Re: Is this ethical behavior?
Jason Bourne wrote:...And even if Smith's behavior was not ethical does this particular activity disqualify him from ever being called of God?Mad Viking wrote:Just curious.
I suppose it does not (if you believe in such things). It does make me wonder what sort of god would choose such an untrustworthy individual to represent them though.
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Scottie wrote:Mad Viking wrote:Scottie wrote:If me and my family were starving, and I saw an opportunity to sell my fake services to a fool so that I could put a loaf of bread on the table, then no, I don't think would be immoral.
The intelligence of your victim determines the morality of the action? Have not still defrauded someone who did not deserve to be so? Look, am as willing as the next person to do whatever it takes to feed/protect my family. I am even willing to commit unethical and immoral acts to do so. But, I would never try and say that my actions weren't such just because of my motives.
That's a good point. Performing unethical acts out of necessity doesn't make them any more unethical. It just means you might be more justified in doing them.
What? No. Not justified. How is defrauding someone who doesn't deserve to be just?
I will agree that other people are going to be more understaning of the perpetrators' unethical actions when they understand his/her motives.
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Re: Is this ethical behavior?
Jason Bourne wrote:Mad Viking wrote:Just curious.
It depends on whether you honestly believed it or not. It also may depend on the pressure and guidance that your father gives. Age and maturity come into play. Culture as well. And even if Smith's behavior was not ethical does this particular activity disqualify him from ever being called of God? What man or woman is perfect?
Jason Bourne wrote:But just because the lawyer's code does not make something unethical does not make it unethical. And my guess is lawyers made their own code. How about we let some non lawyers design the code.
I am not trying to pick a fight, and I didn't go looking for this. In the first statement you say that the person is not acting unethical if they honestly believe that they are not. In the second one you do not offer lawyers the same consideration.
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