Crackpot Mormon Apologists

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Crackpot Mormon Apologists

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Meet the Mormon apologist-crackpots:

Consider the interests of Warren P. Aston, the man who has brought to light Lehi's journey across Arabia.

That's not the only path he's following...

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US Military UFO Cover-up Foiled in Australia or, The Balloon goes up over Pine Gap

Warren Aston


Researcher Warren Aston has just released details of an amazing UFO cover-up attempted by U.S military personnel based at the top-secret underground Pine Gap base in Australia.

See the full article here.

And then there is D. Jeff Meldrum (any relation to Rodney?), author of "Who Are the Children of Lehi?" (D. Jeffrey Meldrum and Trent D. Stephens, Journal of Book of Mormon Studies, vol. 12, no. 1, 2003)--an article about the Lamanite DNA issue. He is into Bigfoot.

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Meldrum said the earliest recorded story about Bigfoot is the "Epic of Gilgamesh." He said that story and "Beowulf" both have accounts of a hairy wild man, which he said could be accounts of Bigfoot.


For the full article, see this link.

Silentkid and Dude have brought to my attention David Stewart Jr., who has also written on the DNA issue, and his work on locating Atlantis in Antarctica!

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Flem-Ath’s Atlantis in Antarctica theory appears to satisfy Plato’s criteria better than any of the other models that have been proposed. With allowance for radiometric dating error, it also appears to closely fit scriptural accounts of the antediluvian land that arose in the midst of the sea but is not mentioned after the flood. However, the theory is still far from proven. It is possible for a theory to fit the available data points and still not be correct, although Lesser Antarctica’s unique combination of distinctive data points which closely fit Plato’s description is certainly intriguing. It is clear that a final resolution of the question of Atlantis is still many years away. Consideration of the possibility of ruins of Atlantis in the Ellsworth Land area may be warranted when more detailed exploration of the subglacial features of Lesser Antarctica occurs.


See full article.

As much as I like him, no list like this would be complete without the Backyard Professor, Kerry Shirts.

In addition to his tireless efforts on behalf of Mormonism, including the production of hundreds of amateur youtube videos of apologetic educational material, Kerry has other, more unusual interests...

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What the Kabbalah Does That Is So Important For Our Understanding It

I believe this article is interesting because Leonora Leet in her writings (late 1990's to early 2000-2004) says precisely as much, that what we need is the re-mythologization of our scriptures. That is, we have lost the spiritual, and we need it back again. Notice that the God of the Philsophers (the one who is supposed to be Spirit only as opposed to a physical embodied God) is ultimately unsatisfying.


See his own website.

Thanks to CaliforniaKid for bringing to my attention the fact that Steven E. Jones, who was fired from BYU for tenaciously promoting the theory that the World Trade Center was demolished as part of a government conspiracy, was also carbon-dating horse bones for FARMS.

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He also worked on that reputable branch of physics research, cold fusion.

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Of Jones, Tucker Carlson said:

When one of my producers first told me about him, my first thought was: Stephen Jones is insane. And he may be. On the other hand, he does have a legitimate job and a responsible-sounding title. He's not living in the park, or writing me letters in crayon. How crazy could he really be? In the interest of open-mindedness, we booked him. That was probably a mistake.


And let's not forget LDS astronomist John P. Pratt, who revealed in Meridian how...

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See his fascinating web book, Venus and the Beginning of Mortality, to see how Venus can tell us precisely when Adam and Eve were thrust out of the Garden of Eden!

Here's a sample from the book in which John explains to us how symbolic the dating of the publication of the Book of Mormon is:

2.5 Book of Mormon Resurrects

A final modern example is the day the Book of Mormon went on sale, Thu 25 Mar 1830. That day is only known historically to have been some time in the week from Sat 20 Mar to Fri 26 Mar,[20] but the Venus alignment makes the correct day clear. That Thursday was 1 Nisan, 1 Resurrection (Venus), 1 Creation (Mercury). Both Venus and Mercury were on the same day as on the Resurrection of Christ. Those two will only align on any given Hebrew day about once in 584 x 9 = 5,256 years. Because there are ten principal Hebrew holy days, that means there will be 10 such alignments in 5,256 years or about one in 525 years. That rare day seems to be clearly symbolizing the "resurrection" of the Book of Mormon.


(I know he isn't an apologist per se, but I thought this stuff was sufficiently Nibleyesque to put him on the list)

In principle, I see nothing wrong with these guys having odd interests. It is when apologists throw around ad hominem arguments that you have to wonder whether they have forgotten the old adage concerning people in glass houses.
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Re: Crackpot Apologists

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Trevor wrote:He is into Bigfoot.

a.k.a. Cain
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Post by _Some Schmo »

Clearly, critical thinking is not within the domain of apologia. It's all about arriving at a predefined destination discarding whatever facts must be ignored in order to get there.
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Post by _John Larsen »

Apologetics is all about exploiting potential points of feasibility. It is taking a preconceived conclusion and then scanning for any gap that you can ramrod that conclusion into. The principles of apologia can be applied to any nitwit idea.
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Post by _silentkid »

Don't forget about FARM's DNA apologist David Stewart's musings on Atlantis in Antarctica (link originally posted by The Dude in his Godhood thread).

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Awesome thread, Trevor. Let's get some more of these guys listed.
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Post by _The Dude »

David Stewart M.D. is cited by the official LDS website for his work on DNA and Book of Mormon people. Incidentally, he's also a proponent of the theory that Atlantis is located in Antarctica.

http://www.scripturehistory.com/atlanti ... rctica.php

Edit: great timing, Silentkid!
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Sorry Dude. I beat you to it. I enjoyed that article so much that I just knew it belonged here.
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silentkid wrote:Don't forget about FARM's DNA apologist David Stewart's musings on Atlantis in Antarctica (link originally posted by The Dude in his Godhood thread).


I'll add him to the list!
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Post by _harmony »

What is Daniel's fantasy? (and I don't mean Krispy Kremes). I mean, he's the most prominent and vocal apologist on the internet, isn't he? So what weird fantasy does he endorse?
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harmony wrote:What is Daniel's fantasy? (and I don't mean Krispy Kremes). I mean, he's the most prominent and vocal apologist on the internet, isn't he?


Holocaust denial?
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