Up for at strange little thread at MAD?

[_Ray A]

I didn't say they did not come from God, I said they weren't His spirit children.

So they came from God, but weren't his spirit children? Did God create a different spirit for them? One that escaped chosing, and accountability? Just entered a body for a time, then extinguished?

Where do these "eternal" (?) spirits go?

[_bcspace]

I speculate they came from 1/3 of the host cast out from Planet Zarkon. An ape body with an alien spirit has to be better than none.

And here I was thinking you were a man of science. Look at this.....



...what is it? A homo sapiens?

[_Ray A]

Doesn't work since a man is defined as a homo sapiens with a spirit child of God within. You are now in violation of Moses 3:7

But you said that homo sapiens existed long before Adam and Eve.

[_Ray A]

...what is it? A homo sapiens?

It looks like Alanis Morriset on drugs.

[_bcspace]

I didn't say they did not come from God, I said they weren't His spirit children.

So they came from God, but weren't his spirit children?

Yes, His spirit children came from Him, God. No, these spirits could not have been His spirit children which would make them men.

Did God create a different spirit for them?

Sure. Just like any other intelligent animal.

One that escaped chosing, and accountability? Just entered a body for a time, then extinguished?

Do animals have to go through such a process?

Where do these "eternal" (?) spirits go?

Where do dolphin or monkey spirits go?

[_Ray A]

Yes, His spirit children came from Him, God. No, these spirits could not have been His spirit children which would make them men.

So the homo sapiens who existed before Adam, were not spirit children of God. Who fathered them?

[_bcspace]

Doesn't work since a man is defined as a homo sapiens with a spirit child of God within. You are now in violation of Moses 3:7

But you said that homo sapiens existed long before Adam and Eve.

That's right. It's something that must be accounted for if the Fall occured only a few thousands or tens of thousands of years ago.

The answer is that God created physical bodies (homo sapiens) via evolution. These had to have spirits in them since they were living creatures, but they can not be literal spirit children of God else the "first man" statement is violated.

When the time was right, homo sapiens were born that had spirit children of God within and placed into the Garden.

...what is it? A homo sapiens?

It looks like Alanis Morriset on drugs.

It's a reconstruction of a Neanderthal from the Anthropological Institute, University of Zürich.

I'm using this illustration to show that there does exist in science, creatures that look human but are not necessarily as intelligent or the quite the same as humans.

[_bcspace]

Yes, His spirit children came from Him, God. No, these spirits could not have been His spirit children which would make them men.

So the homo sapiens who existed before Adam, were not spirit children of God. Who fathered them?

Physically, one simply needs only to refer to evolution theory to answer that. As for their spirits, who fathers (if that is the correct term) dolphin or monkey spirits?

[_moksha]

Yes, His spirit children came from Him, God. No, these spirits could not have been His spirit children which would make them men.

So the homo sapiens who existed before Adam, were not spirit children of God. Who fathered them?

Ashton Kutcher?

Isn't this 'not being His spirit children' carrying speculative doctrine to a ridiculous conclusion in order to make it internally consistent?

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[_Ray A]

I'm using this illustration to show that there does exist in science, creatures that look human but are not necessarily as intelligent or the quite the same as humans.

Who fathered their spirits?

So they are on the "level" of dolphin or monkey spirits? Even though they are homo sapiens? So before the Fall, all homo sapiens were fathered by the same person, but after the fall, Heavenly Father's sperm produced "real spirits"?