Believe what you want, but leave science out of it.
Why? The LDS Church embraces science. It's critics, by and large do not, but do talk it up from time to time as if they understood the underlying principles of science.
You had some good questions early on, but now you're stymied and frustrated since perhaps your purpose was not to understand but to gainsay thus leaving the path of wisdom.
Wisdom? Where?
Oh your little mormonism-according-to-bcspace tripe?? You call that steamy pile of monkey poo WISDOM??
I call engaging in invective rather than speaking to the subject leaving the path of wisdom.
bcspace wrote: Why? The LDS Church embraces science. It's critics, by and large do not, but do talk it up from time to time as if they understood the underlying principles of science.
BC, I don't even need to understand the "underlying principles of science" to know that a kindergarten child would call you out on your "science". Jack and the Beanstalk would make more sense to them.
Ray, you need to know something about the modus operandi of BCSpace.
Since Mormon theology is nothing more than a figment of man's imagination, there are really no rules regarding elements that absolutely must be there. Words are up for grabs, and can be redefined at will if necessary. He has already been refuted and debunked many times, but he always replies with some variant of "no I haven't, you're wrong, and now you're just fuming because you can't find any way that my theory conflicts with either science or LDS scripture".
He's like the Black Knight in Monty Python who is told "your arm's off!" and he replies, as the blood spurts out, "no it isn't!"
I've really lost interest in going at it with BCSpace over this. The threads are there. He lost, and he's too much of a stubborn jackass to admit it, because to do so would threaten the faith story he's convinced himself he believes. So he just declares himself the winner of any discussion he jumps into about this stuff, and drives on spewing out all manner of religious/scientific fantasy that nobody in the world actually believes except him. If you choose to continue going on about this with him, just know going into this that it's really just for the lurkers and posterity, because BCSpace will simply never, ever accept defeat and acknowledge that his theory is just so much rubbish.
Mormonism ceased being a compelling topic for me when I finally came to terms with its transformation from a personality cult into a combination of a real estate company, a SuperPac, and Westboro Baptist Church. - Kishkumen
What I want to know is what happened to all the descendants of the non-God procreated spirit-Homo Sapiens. ;-)
If there were millions of Homo Sapiens around when God chose one male body in which to instill his God procreated spirit child, and placed this male in the Missouri Garden of Eden are there billions of humans that are not actual descendants of Adam?
You know, some other species? Or are they considered the same species but just have a different non-God procreated spirit?
Maybe there are actually two different forms of humans alive on the planet?
Hmmm.... ;-)
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"The search for reality is the most dangerous of all undertakings for it destroys the world in which you live." Nisargadatta Maharaj
Pokatator wrote:BC's doctrine = the philosophies of men mingled with a little bit of scripture
You are a mass of confusion, buddy.
I have to disagree with you here...
I don't think there is a man or woman who would find BC's "theory" to make any sort of sense at all. I think he is the sole believer in his philosophy. ;-)
So, maybe it is more, "the philosophies of BC mingled with a speck of scripture?"
(smile)
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"The search for reality is the most dangerous of all undertakings for it destroys the world in which you live." Nisargadatta Maharaj
truth dancer wrote:What I want to know is what happened to all the descendants of the non-God procreated spirit-Homo Sapiens. ;-)
If there were millions of Homo Sapiens around when God chose one male body in which to instill his God procreated spirit child, and placed this male in the Missouri Garden of Eden are there billions of humans that are not actual descendants of Adam?
You know, some other species? Or are they considered the same species but just have a different non-God procreated spirit?
Maybe there are actually two different forms of humans alive on the planet?
Hmmm.... ;-)
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I asked BCSpace about this identical point some months ago, having supplied him with data on the accepted dates at which modern human beings populated the different parts of the earth's surface, and after having got him to give a range of dates during which his version of the Fall could have taken place. The impossibility of us all being in any sense descendants of Adam was then very evident. I asked him to confront this huge objection to his theory.
Answer came there none. Pending further clarification, I can only conclude provisionally that he is not discussing this and similar points in good faith, but is simply playing little games. Thus I suggest it may be better not to bother arguing with him.