What Does It Really Mean To Be Mormon?

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_ludwigm
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Re: What Does It Really Mean To Be Mormon?

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bcspace wrote:
Where in canonized scripture does it say that being a member of or sympathetic to a politcal party's ideas constitutes apostasy?

What do they say about apostasy? It's all about rejecting Christ and his doctrines. The democratic party supports all those things I mentioned that are diametrically opposed to the gospel of Christ. Hence, supporting the democratic party is an outward sign of your rejection of Christ's teachings.
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Bcspace, you are a stupid american.

In Hungary, there are four parties in the parliament.
The majority is the H. Socialists. (Hello Droopy, we are in leftist danger !)
In coalition with them one centrist/liberal one, the Alliance of Free Democrats.
In opposition, the bigger right party, the Alliance of Young Democrats (well, in the last years they called themselves Hungarian Civic Union, but their abbreviation has remained FIDESZ, where the D stands for Democrats.
The smaller right party in opposition is H. Democrat Forum.
There are some delegates built in the FIDESZ from Christian Democratic People's Party.

What could You say about Christ's teachings to these people, whose parties are someway called democrats?

In the world there are other countries than US.
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_John Larsen
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Re: What Does It Really Mean To Be Mormon?

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bcspace wrote:It means there is nothing inherently wrong with being rich or well off.

There is a finite set of resources in the short run. Riches are created either by labor or by expending natural resources. To be rich necessarily means that others will go without and/or you are acquiring the benefit of other people's labor for a smaller share of your labor.

Doesn't seem very Christian.
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Re: What Does It Really Mean To Be Mormon?

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harmony wrote:Mormons are too new on the scene for that kind of identity.


I think you're right about that. Martin Marty had a few things to say about that as well. Summing up his words with my own phrasing: "They will eventually learn."


I think it depends. If you are one of what Harmony calls the elite pioneer stock vs. a one generation Mormon it makes a difference. It also makes a difference where you live and how many Mormons surround you. My dad has not been active at all since 18. And his lifestyle has certainly not been LDS. Yet he identifies himself as a Mormon. This is most likely because his father, GF, and GFF were Mormon as is all his family. But it could be different for others.

For me I cannot really imagine myself any other religion. When I thought about leaving I think at least for religion, where would I go. Maybe because I think they all have problems and why go from one with problems to another. But also, the LDS culture, with all its ups and downs, is my culture.
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Re: What Does It Really Mean To Be Mormon?

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Many have been ex'd for far less. The Church ought not to be squeamish in these matters as it looks selective.


It does not look selective. It IS selective. And it is because it fears bad PR.
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