Continued: The Debate With marg on NDEs.

[_Ray A]

From the old thread:

It is wise to reject extraordinary claims, to not take all of them seriously just because people claim them. People only have so much time in their lives they can't and shouldn't remain agnostic on all claims. Initially I rejected NDE claims of consciousness after death, because quite frankly if it were truly well evidenced, I'm sure I would have heard of it by now.

Sigh. You would have heard of it by now? Have you ever heard the saying "if the mountain won't come to Muhammad, Muhammad must go to the mountain"?

Let's see if you are open minded enough to carefully read just two links:

Start with a very basic one from Wiki. (Don't be selective, read it all in context)

And a little more complicated: NDERF. (There is some "New Age" stuff in this one, but also scientific articles, and 1,800 NDEs)

Challenge me.
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[_marg]

My initial reaction to this thread you started Ray, because I haven't yet looked at the content of it, is what a [personal attack deleted] you are and why would I want to waste one more second of my life talking with you. Let's see I can go out for lunch, some shopping and movie with an extremely intelligent wonderful person who has just asked me to do that. Or can spend my time here with a [personal attack deleted]. choices..choices. I think I'll go out

[_Ray A]

My initial reaction to this thread you started Ray, because I haven't yet looked at the content of it, is what a [personal attack deleted] you are and why would I want to waste one more second of my life talking with you. Let's see I can go out for lunch, some shopping and movie with an extremely intelligent wonderful person who has just asked me to do that. Or can spend my time here with a [personal attack deleted]. choices..choices. I think I'll go out

Enjoy the lunch and movie. And see you on here later.

[_skippy the dead]

My initial reaction to this thread you started Ray, because I haven't yet looked at the content of it, is what a [personal attack deleted] you are and why would I want to waste one more second of my life talking with you. Let's see I can go out for lunch, some shopping and movie with an extremely intelligent wonderful person who has just asked me to do that. Or can spend my time here with a [personal attack deleted]. choices..choices. I think I'll go out

Oh noes! Ad homs!

[_dblagent007]

My initial reaction to this thread you started Ray, ... is what a [personal attack deleted] you are and why would I want to waste one more second of my life talking with you. Let's see I can go out for lunch, some shopping and movie with an extremely intelligent wonderful person who has just asked me to do that. Or can spend my time here with a [personal attack deleted].

Ray, looks like you need to get a Mod to take you under his/her wing so that you can be shielded from these nasty ad homs (don't you have some health problems or something to justify the special treatment?).

[_Mercury]

My initial reaction to this thread you started Ray, ... is what a [personal attack deleted] you are and why would I want to waste one more second of my life talking with you. Let's see I can go out for lunch, some shopping and movie with an extremely intelligent wonderful person who has just asked me to do that. Or can spend my time here with a [personal attack deleted].

Ray, looks like you need to get a Mod to take you under his/her wing so that you can be shielded from these nasty ad homs (don't you have some health problems or something to justify the special treatment?).

Harharhar

[_Jason Bourne]

My initial reaction to this thread you started Ray, because I haven't yet looked at the content of it, is what a [personal attack deleted] you are and why would I want to waste one more second of my life talking with you. Let's see I can go out for lunch, some shopping and movie with an extremely intelligent wonderful person who has just asked me to do that. Or can spend my time here with a [personal attack deleted]. choices..choices. I think I'll go out

Hooooooeeeeeee!!! This from the woman who cries ad hom at the drop of a hat.

Marg's colors are showing.

Mods, where is the deletion of the personal attack??!!?!?! Oh wait, Marg is a mod.

Wow.

[_Daniel Peterson]

My initial reaction to this thread you started Ray, because I haven't yet looked at the content of it, is what a [personal attack deleted] you are and why would I want to waste one more second of my life talking with you. Let's see I can go out for lunch, some shopping and movie with an extremely intelligent wonderful person who has just asked me to do that. Or can spend my time here with a [personal attack deleted]. choices..choices. I think I'll go out

Impressive.

Convincing.

Well-reasoned.

I don't think Ray can recover from this.

[_Dr. Shades]

Mods, where is the deletion of the personal attack??!!?!?! Oh wait, Marg is a mod.

MARG IS **NOT** A MODERATOR ANYMORE.

[_Ray A]

You need not have deleted the personal attacks, Shades. And I think you'd really do well to have a policy not to delete anything unless you are PMed by the offended poster. I am not offended.

Please think about including this in any rule revisions.