Another Anti-Mormon Who Just Doesn't Get It

[_beastie]

By "too", I presume you are thinking of the straw man in your closed mind, sinceno one could rationally interpret my post as suggesting anything of the sort. In fact, the reasonably minded, with ears to hear and eyes to see, would rightly understand me to have said otherwise--not that this is within your capacity to grasp (as evinced by you persistent struggle in stubbling over even the simplest point).

Yes, I was making a tongue-in-cheek comment, which I know causes difficulties for you. Obviously no LDS person would think asking if the church were true would be nit-picking - and yet that was the example being discussed on this thread, immediately prior to your comment.

So, obviously, your observation about nit-picking critics was the real straw-man.

[_wenglund]

Sure looks to me like you said that. Or, at the very least, strongly implied it.

I stated it generically so as to prevent people from jumping to that conclusion.

So, you continue to see and hear what isn't really there and was intentionally not said, and this even after the ultimate authority on what I say and mean has repeatedly corrected you. Again, some people you just can't reach.

And, you wonder why there is confusion?

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

[_beastie]

Well, by all means, share some examples of nit-picking. You must have numerous to pull from, since it justified a "generic" generalization.

[_wenglund]

Obviously no LDS person would think asking if the church were true would be nit-picking - and yet that was the example being discussed on this thread, immediately prior to your comment.

So, obviously, your observation about nit-picking critics was the real straw-man.

The intelligent reader will obviously know that the quoted portion of my posts are what I am responding to and are what is relevant to what I say, and not some statement(s) that just happen to have been posted right before mine that I didn't have in mind. You, of course, were expected to jump to the kind of false conclusion that you just did. Such is your chosen nature.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

[_beastie]

Ok, I fully admit my own stupidity.

Now will you share some examples of nit-picking? You must have numerous to pull from, since it justified a "generic" generalization.

You see, Wade, I've been participating on boards with fellow exmormons for 12 years. I don't remember a single example that would fit your "nit-picking" generalization. So, come on - share. There must be so many, it shouldn't be difficult.

[_wenglund]

Well, by all means, share some examples of nit-picking. You must have numerous to pull from, since it justified a "generic" generalization.

That would be a valued exercise with someone whose mind isn't closed, and who is willing to thoughtfully listen and comprehend what I say as well as speak for themselves and not put words into my mouth. So, on all accounts, that rules you out.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

[_beastie]

Oh, come on, Wade. Think of others. I know all your wisdom is utterly wasted on someone as hopeless as myself, but there are other folks you can still reach. Come on. Just give us a few examples of that nit-picking....

cuz, you know, otherwise we may conclude you're just blowing smoke.

[_Sethbag]

It's supposed to not make sense. That way, you can contemplate it and think on it and rework it until you come up with an answer that does make sense, even though it no longer bares any resemblance to reality whatsoever.

That's the beauty of confusion. It's confusing. But if you're confused by that, I don't expect you to understand that you're supposed to be confused because confusion is a gift to the confused so that they get unconfused with confused explanations. Pretty simple, huh?

It's all god's plan. Isn't it lovely?

Wait, I think I'm seeing it. Frodo and Sam had to walk the ring into Mordor, nearly killing themselves in the process, because if the eagles had just flown them in and they just dropped it in, no muss no fuss, it would have been too easy? And God wanted the destruction of the ring to be accomplished through great personal sacrifice, as a type for Christ's sacrifice, which was to occur during a later age?

Oh my God, J.R.R. Tolkien proved the Mormon Church is true! How could he have known?!?

[_The Nehor]

The crux of the matter is this question: did YOU know it was a false opinion?

Sometimes yes, sometimes no, usually not at the time I'm teaching though.

In other words, it is rocket science.

See, there are two ends of this equation: the receiver of inspiration who then shares that inspiration. You maintain that members listening to the prophet, who first received that inspiration and then shared it, can easily discern the difference between inspiration and opinion. But the receiver ends fails when it was the prophet first trying to discern the difference between his own opinion and revelation in the first place.

No, I assumed it was self-evident based on human interaction that it's easier to analyze something while listening then when you are the one speaking.

There are African Americans who have rightfully been concerned about this teaching. Your attempt to minimize it is duly noted.

Oh no.......please don't report to anyone.

[_Droopy]

Use of the Holy Ghost clears this whole thing up. As apostates and nonmembers you've lost access to it so you'll never figure this out.

And that is indeed the mate to any critic's or apostate's check.

Harmony is so long passed the point of any sensitivity to this that there is literally no reasoning with her. She is on her own, "without God in the world".

I've been there, and go in fear every day of its terrible implications. To see others smugly wallowing in it takes my breath away.