Mormon, Porn, and Masturbation. (Easy now, Paul)

[_harmony]

Hmmmm. Ok, let's make Harmony our God! Let us make an image of her and bow before it?

Blessed be Harmony, our new God. She will be kind to us. She will not give stupid rules to follow. She will not tell the men that we can't masturbate but will watch all of us do it with pleasure.

Paul O

Again... watching isn't my style.

[_Paul Osborne]

Ummmm.... no, thanks. Strictly heterosexual here

Ok, how about we carve an image of you with two men? It can be a divine Trio, with you in charge of everything. The power is yours, Harmony, all you have to do is reach out and squeeze it!

I bow before you.



Paul O

[_Paul Osborne]

Again... watching isn't my style

What style do you prefer?

Your humble servant listeneth.



Paul O

[_Brackite]

Brack,

Thanks for sharing those items. beware liberal view in Chritianity. That first reference cited the jesus Seminar. That group set out to determine what words in the Bible could relaly be attributed to Christ and ended up deciding that none of it is Christs.

A funny thing to note is that they state that Lust teachings derive from Jewish tradition and are therefore not originated with the Savior. Amusing when we teach that it was Christ that Moses spoke with on Sinai, and Christs finger who wrote the commandments on the stones.

Gaz

Hi Gaz,

Let us look at the Scriptural Passage of Matthew Chapter Five, Verses 27 through 28, From othe Versions (Translations) of the Bible:

Matthew 5:27-28: (King James Version):


27 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:

28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

3 Nephi 12:27-28: (Book of Mormon Version):


[27] Behold, it is written by them of old time, that thou shalt not commit adultery;

[28] But I say unto you, that whosoever looketh on a woman, to lust after her, hath committed adultery already in his heart.

Matthew 5:27-28: (New King James Version):

(Adultery in the Heart)


27 “You have heard that it was said to those of old,[a] ‘You shall not commit adultery.’
[b]28 But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.


Footnotes:

a. Matthew 5:27 NU-Text and M-Text omit to those of old.
b. Matthew 5:27 Exodus 20:14; Deuteronomy 5:18

Matthew 5:27-28: (New International Version):

(Adultery)


27 "You have heard that it was said, 'Do not commit adultery.'[a]
28 But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.


Footnotes:

a. Matthew 5:27 Exodus 20:14

Matthew 5:27-28: (New American Standard Bible):


27 "(A)You have heard that it was said, '(B)YOU SHALL NOT COMMIT ADULTERY';

28 but I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman (C)with lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.


Cross references:

A. Matthew 5:27 : Matt 5:21, 33, 38, 43
B. Matthew 5:27 : Ex 20:14; Deut 5:18
C. Matthew 5:28 : 2 Sam 11:2-5; Job 31:1; Matt 15:19; James 1:14, 15

Here is Exodus Chapter 20, Verse 14:

Exodus 20:14: (New King James Version):


14 “You shall not commit adultery.

What is the Biblical definition of adultery? To find out the answer to this Question, we need to go to Leviticus Chapter 20, Verse 10, and Deuteronomy Chapter 22, Verses 22 through 24.
Now, Here is Leviticus Chapter 20, Verse 10, and Deuteronomy Chapter 22, Verses 22 through 24:

Leviticus 20:10: (New International Version):


10 " 'If a man commits adultery with another man's wife—with the wife of his neighbor—both the adulterer and the adulteress must be put to death.

Deuteronomy 22:22-24: (New International Version):


22 If a man is found sleeping with another man's wife, both the man who slept with her and the woman must die. You must purge the evil from Israel.

23 If a man happens to meet in a town a virgin pledged to be married and he sleeps with her,
24 you shall take both of them to the gate of that town and stone them to death—the girl because she was in a town and did not scream for help, and the man because he violated another man's wife. You must purge the evil from among you.

[_JAK]

harmony wrote:
Then they agree with Daniel. That's one of the first things he taught me, almost 10 years ago... that the words that are attributed to Christ in the Bible are not direct quotes. They're paraphrases, if that.

Quotation marks were not used prior to the end of the 17th Century.

The New International Version uses quotation marks to specify direct quotations of Jesus. Quotation marks had not been invented in 1611, the time of the King James Version.

Look at this sample from Mark 1 in the New International Version.

That the quotation marks had not been invented does not discount the specific language which clearly demonstrates direct quotation in the King James Version. BibleGateway has many versions of the Bible for review, comparison, and contrast.

Most Christian denominations regard specific words following: He said, or God said as direct quotation.

However, liberal Christian groups, agnostics, academics, etc. recognize the absurdity of the notion that stories (fiction) were accurately written when told for decades prior to being written in any form.

Only in relatively recent time have virtually all of the Bible stories been recognized as inaccurate or never-stated words in sequence. The many inconsistencies and internal contradictions in the Bible are evidence that the various constructions are unreliable.

JAK

[_Brackite]

A Single Male who is Masturbating over (looking) at a Single Female is not consider committing adultery within his heart, Since a Single Male sleeping with a Single Female is not committing the Biblical definition of adultery. Hence, Yeshua of Nazareth (Jesus Christ) Never condemned the Practice of Masturbation.

[_JAK]

A Single Male who is Masturbating over (looking) at a Single Female is not consider committing adultery within his heart, Since a Single Male sleeping with a Single Female is not committing the Biblical definition of adultery. Hence, Yeshua of Nazareth (Jesus Christ) Never condemned the Practice of Masturbation.

Is this supposed to make literal or figurative sense?

“Biblical” anything is subject to conflicting opinion. Hence, conclusions asserted are irrelevant.

The Roman Catholic Church “condemns” any sex or sexual gratification outside of marriage where two and only two, one male/one female are participants.

JAK

[_harmony]

Quotation marks were not used prior to the end of the 17th Century'

So?

The New International Version uses quotation marks to specify direct quotations of Jesus. Quotation marks had not been invented in 1611, the time of the King James Version.

So?

That the quotation marks had not been invented does not discount the specific language which clearly demonstrates direct quotation in the King James Version.

So?

Most Christian denominations regard specific words following: He said, or God said as direct quotation.

You, an atheist, now speak for "most Christian denominations"?

However, liberal Christian groups, agnostics, academics, etc. recognize the absurdity of the notion that stories (fiction) were accurately written when told for decades prior to being written in any form.

So... now you, an atheist, speak for "liberal Christian groups," too?

Only in relatively recent time have virtually all of the Bible stories been recognized as inaccurate or never-stated words...blah blah blah

And here I was just thinking of the words written in red....

[_Jersey Girl]

You, an atheist, now speak for "most Christian denominations"?

How do you know he's an atheist?

.

[_harmony]

You, an atheist, now speak for "most Christian denominations"?

How do you know he's an atheist?

.

Seems to me like that's what he claimed.

My comment works the same, even if he's not. He doesn't speak for all Christian denominations, period.