Hold on. The word discourage may not be the proper choice. We are discourged from shopping on Sundays but a saint who runs to the store on the sabbath to pick up a lone item is not going to be in any trouble with the bishop. But a girl who masturbates and is caught by confession to a bishop is going to be branded unworthy and told not to do that again. So, would the word FORBIDDEN be better? We might just as well put the girls under the same restrictions as the boys. It's only fair. If boys can't play then girls can't either.
In sexual relations with one's spouse it seems all sorts of things could be considered unnatural based on what you and the FP said. Oral sex. What about fondling ones spouses genitals. Is that not masturbating one's spouse? Is that anymore natural than oral sex. Is intercourse the only natural act. I agree with Paul here. Stay out of my bedroom.
I agree to agree with you.
I can imagine there are many things that a couple could do in bed that would make Joseph F. Smith angry and condemn them to a burning hell.
Frankly, some of the statements (in distant past) made by leaders of the church regarding birth control are an abomination to me. Those were clearly the teachings of uninspired men with a personal agenda to try and force others to do things their way. The Lord just sat back and watched his chosen leaders make fools of themselves. It's part of the learning process.
Paul Osborne wrote: I can imagine there are many things that a couple could do in bed that would make Joseph F. Smith angry and condemn them to a burning hell.
Joseph F Smith hit his wife with a coiled up rope. Nothing Joseph F Smith said will ever have any sway over me.
Frankly, some of the statements (in distant past) made by leaders of the church regarding birth control are an abomination to me. Those were clearly the teachings of uninspired men with a personal agenda to try and force others to do things their way. The Lord just sat back and watched his chosen leaders make fools of themselves. It's part of the learning process.
Paul O
In case I neglected to tell you, Paul... I really love your attitude toward the Brethren's counsel on this subject. But I still won't be a plural wife!
(Nevo, Jan 23) And the Melchizedek Priesthood may not have been restored until the summer of 1830, several months after the organization of the Church.
I have thought about plural marriage and I have changed my mind about the whole thing. I have constructed a dimensional gate that will enable me to enter all those infinite universes that only exist in possibility. I plan on kidnapping all the women that are my wife and making them my wives, Just think of it, 3 x 12^35087250820498340239752043208430 of HLJs!!!!!!!
Gadianton Plumber wrote:I have thought about plural marriage and I have changed my mind about the whole thing. I have constructed a dimensional gate that will enable me to enter all those infinite universes that only exist in possibility. I plan on kidnapping all the women that are my wife and making them my wives, Just think of it, 3 x 12^35087250820498340239752043208430 of HLJs!!!!!!!
Tonight might be a good time to put down the hallucinogens and step back into reality.
(Nevo, Jan 23) And the Melchizedek Priesthood may not have been restored until the summer of 1830, several months after the organization of the Church.
Gadianton Plumber wrote:I have thought about plural marriage and I have changed my mind about the whole thing. I have constructed a dimensional gate that will enable me to enter all those infinite universes that only exist in possibility. I plan on kidnapping all the women that are my wife and making them my wives, Just think of it, 3 x 12^35087250820498340239752043208430 of HLJs!!!!!!!
Tonight might be a good time to put down the hallucinogens and step back into reality.
harmony wrote:Tonight might be a good time to put down the hallucinogens and step back into reality.
Hey, I did the math. It's solid!
I wasn't disputing the math. I was disputing your arrival in the highest sextion of the Celestial Kingdom.
(Nevo, Jan 23) And the Melchizedek Priesthood may not have been restored until the summer of 1830, several months after the organization of the Church.
Actually the Church discourages masturbation for girls as well. It is just not talk about as much nor at least till recent years, did bishops ask girls about masturbation because they did not realize girls like it as much as boys do!
So how does that happen, bishops actually ask women?
