Joseph was never baptized a member of CofJCofLDS

[_zzyzx]

Joseph Smith was never baptized into the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. He was never confirmed as a member either.

How come?

[_Tchild]

I do believe that the history of Joseph Smith states that after receiving the Aaronic priesthood (since resurrected angels don't exist, that part at least was a fabrication), that Oliver Cowdery and Joseph Smith took turns baptizing one another.

Whether they actually, factually did, is another story.

[_Gazelam]

Peter, James and John would have done the confirmation, and we only have a few details about the event. We can assume they performed the confirmation and the Gift of the Holy Ghost.

[_bcspace]

If the official name of the Church changes, do we all have to get baptized again?

[_Nightlion]

I am about to prove that fewer than few have truly received Christ and been admitted into his church.

From the breaking moment of the First Vision Joseph Smith WAS the Church, having received the baptism of fire and of the Holy Ghost when the theophany commenced.

Christ declared that Joseph Smith baptized Oliver Cowdery
(D&C 18:7) before the church was organized.
What is interesting in the beginning of the church is that the Lord does not warrant believers like Hyrum Smith any legitimacy until he accomplishes "seeking the kingdom of God."

Notice verse 16 or D&C 11
11. Wait a little longer, until you shall have my word, my rock, my church, and my gospel, that you may know of a surety my doctrine.

Christ goes on in verse 23
23. Behold thou art Hyrum, my son; seek the kingdom of God, and all things shall be added according to that which is just.
24. Build upon my rock, which is my gospel.

Somehow this manner of discrimination got lost and forgotten.

And verse 30
30. But verily, verily, I say unto you, that as many as receive me, to them will I give power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on my name. Amen.

Here is discrimination between the power of godliness and the lack of it. That is what Joseph was told was missing in the churches that were all wrong.

In D&C 10:67-68 (See 3 Nephi 11) the Lord defines precisely what his church is.
67. Behold, this is my doctrine--whosoever repenteth and cometh unto me, the same is my church.
68. whosoever declareth more or less than this, the same is not of me, but is against me; therefore he is not of my church.

It is not just repentance, but the coming unto Christ that makes for the Church. How do you know if you have truly come unto Christ? Only those who are visited of God and wrought upon and cleansed by the baptism of fire and of the Holy Ghost have obtained the word of the Lord, his rock, his gospel and are of his church. These only have truly come unto Christ.

Indeed the laying on of hands to confirm those who are baptized was for the baptism of fire and of the Holy Ghost and nothing more or less than this.

D&C 20:21
21. And to confirm those who are baptized into the church, by the laying on of hands for the BAPTISM OF FIRE AND OF THE HOLY GHOST, according to the scriptures.

Anyone who has been confirmed and who does not receive power to become the sons of God in the baptism of fire and of the Holy Ghost have sought to make something more or less and cannot be the church.

D&C 33 makes it all the more apparent.
10. Yea, open your mouths and they sahll be filled, saying: Repent, repent, and prepare ye the way of the Lord, and make his paths straight; for the kingdom of heaven is at hand;
11. Yea, repent and be baptized, every one of you, for a remission of your sins; yea, be baptized even by water, and then cometh the baptism of fire and of teh Holy Ghost.
12. Behold, verily, verily, I say unto youk, this is my gospel; and remember that they shall have faith in me or they can in nowise be saved;
13. And upon this rock {THE BAPTISM OF FIRE AND OF THE HOLY GHOST} I will build my church; yea, upon this rock ye are built, and if ye continue, the gates of hell shall not prevail against you.

And to make the point even better understood Christ declares that members are confirmed by the laying of of hands but that;
(verse 15)...I will bestow the gift of the Holy Ghost upon them.

Once the Church unplugs from Christ and goes on their way to build up a church in their own image and likeness it cannot stand against the gates of hell because they are no longer built upon the rock of the gospel.

One more time Christ makes the point of receiving him in D&C 39
4. But to as many as received me, gave I power to become my sons; and even so will I give unto as many as receive me, power to become my sons.
5. And verily, verily, I say unto you, he that receiveth my gospel receiveth me; and he that receiveth not my gospel receiveth not me.
6. And this is my gospel--repentence and baptism by water, and then cometh the baptism of fire and the Holy Ghost, even the Comforter, which showeth all things, and teacheth the peaceable things of the kingdom.

Every man who receives the gospel, the power of godliness, is a prophet who learns from God for himself.

The ordinances without the power manifested is not the gospel.
Losing the ability to discriminate as to whose names should be taken for membership in the church and who needs to be excluded (see Moroni 6 and 3 Nephi 18) so that they do not destroy the church has delivered to our day and time a decimated gospel and church riddled with hypocrisy and deceit.

So it makes you have to wonder who really is and who is not a member of Christ's church, his rock, his gospel.

The answer is only those who names are written in the Lamb's Book of Life, even the Book of the Sanctified. According to what is found written in the books shall the world be judged at the last day.

See D&C 88:2, Revelation 21:27

[_DarkHelmet]

I'm sure the details of Joseph Smith's baptism are documented in his Baptism Memories book that his mom gave him as a baptism present.

[_Uncle Dale]

Joseph Smith was never baptized into the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. He was never confirmed as a member either.

How come?

The LDS Church did not yet exist when Joe & Ollie dunked
each other (Alma style). See Dan Vogel's Seekers
volume, for some insights on very early Mormon views on
the Church Invisible -- this was the organization the two
boys were baptized into.

After April of 1830, everybody kinda forgot about the prior
Church Invisible idea. Wonder if the LDS Church is able
to produce Joe's baptismal certificate? If not, then maybe
Monson can do a proxy baptism for ol' Joe.

UD