Mormonism is multi level marketing Christitianity

[_Polygamy-Porter]

I just had a moment of brilliance.

Mormonism is just like all of these fly-by-night get rich quick scams.

Think about it.

Look at those who get involved in the scams, many have the same personalities as TBMs.

Yes, I know, that was my next thought.. many of these people who are involved in these scams ARE TBMs.

Mormonism is nothing more than multi level marketing Christianity.

OH man the brilliance is getting brighter.

Just like the MLM scams, your reward is from your downlink.. or the people you convert or "bring into the biz"

You visit your downlink and encourage them to convert or "bring outsiders into the biz".

WOW.

You heard it here first(I hope!)

Mormonism is nothing more than multi level marketing Christianity.

[Rikiti]

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[_zeezrom]

Stated well by bob mccue http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=3&ved=0CBMQFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fnoni.worldwidewarning.net%2Fwww%2Fnoni-utah-mormon-and-mlm&ei=7QhnS9PqO8-0tgflu8G4Bg&usg=AFQjCNFInd-I0jW-ZVM_S6xlGVZnIpMV0w&sig2=HOR1JKwuPQWbd44kfSt2pw

There is no question in my view as to why MLMs work so well with Mormons. They use
the same emotion based epistemology (method of "knowing") as Mormonism. If it
makes me feel good, it must be "true". The MLM guys know how to dress and present
themselves authoritatively. It helps if you have a university degree or two as well. But
the key is to deliver the emotional goods. The use of testimonials works beautifully,
which I note is illegal in some US states regarding financial planning precisely because
of the distorting effect it has on decision making.

Question: Does our love of MLMs make us any more sympathetic of Joseph Smith money digging?
Question: Does our mode of F&TM make us more vulnerable to MLMs? (i.e. doubting not allowed in public, etc.)?

[_The Nehor]

Except that your whole inane idea falls apart when you realize that it doesn't work that way. I don't get any material benefit from bringing someone into the Church and I don't collect a percentage off them when they bring someone in.

Care to back this up or are you just attributing every negative organization type to the LDS Church and then hoping no one will call you on your BS?

[_Sethbag]

That's a good point, Z. In F&TM it would be very poor form to criticize or act skeptically toward someone else's testimony. If the MLM sales pitch can evoke the kind of presentation of a F&TM, it's possible that TBMs in the crowd may feel the same hesitation against skepticism or criticism that they'd feel in church - and it may end up with them doing things they wouldn't have done ordinarily, under non-churchy circumstances.

[_Sethbag]

Except that your whole inane idea falls apart when you realize that it doesn't work that way. I don't get any material benefit from bringing someone into the Church and I don't collect a percentage off them when they bring someone in.

D&C 18:15,16
" 15 And if it so be that you should labor all your days in crying repentance unto this people, and bring, save it be one soul unto me, how great shall be your joy with him in the kingdom of my Father!
16 And now, if your joy will be great with one soul that you have brought unto me into the kingdom of my Father, how great will be your joy if you should bring many souls unto me!"

I distinctly remember an emphasis on converting others having a salutary effect on one's own chances for exaltation, especially on our missions.

[_The Nehor]

Except that your whole inane idea falls apart when you realize that it doesn't work that way. I don't get any material benefit from bringing someone into the Church and I don't collect a percentage off them when they bring someone in.

D&C 18:15,16
" 15 And if it so be that you should labor all your days in crying repentance unto this people, and bring, save it be one soul unto me, how great shall be your joy with him in the kingdom of my Father!
16 And now, if your joy will be great with one soul that you have brought unto me into the kingdom of my Father, how great will be your joy if you should bring many souls unto me!"

I distinctly remember an emphasis on converting others having a salutary effect on one's own chances for exaltation, especially on our missions.

Yes, but to be multi-level I'd have to get returns on those they brought in. I baptized a guy on my Mission who later went on a Mission. Can you point out to me the teaching that shows that I will get bonuses to my exaltation for his successes?

[_zeezrom]

I don't get any material benefit from bringing someone into the Church and I don't collect a percentage off them when they bring someone in. Care to back this up or are you just attributing every negative organization type to the LDS Church and then hoping no one will call you on your b***s***?

That was not my point though it is also an interesting one. My point is that people that have tried to sell me stuff using MLM and have always, always started out with a strong conviction that they have come to know the benefits of their products to be true(!) Even though the science does not back it up. The product is usually vitamin related. Their sales pitch sounded a little like what you may hear in F&TM. That is the reason I brought this up.

Science/Reasoning? Missing.
Conviction? Definitely!

[_beastie]

Yes, but to be multi-level I'd have to get returns on those they brought in. I baptized a guy on my Mission who later went on a Mission. Can you point out to me the teaching that shows that I will get bonuses to my exaltation for his successes?

I don't know what you mean by "bonuses", but you certainly get brownie points. At least that's how it was always presented to us as missionaries on my mission.

[_Sethbag]

I don't know about you, but I've heard many testimonies of people talking about folks they'd baptized years ago, and how the kids of these converts had gone on on missions of their own, and rejoicing about endless generations of Mormons generated by their initial conversion. You haven't?

Are you quibbling with me over whether Mormon scripture promises happiness from one's entire downline, rather than just the first tier of it?