Droopy wrote:If one really wants to see open, brazen, bombastic lying, deception, and guile, one only has to spend some fair amount of time here to understand the meaning of that concept, and the meaning and near definition of anti-Mormonism.
Of course the nuance argument and meaning Will is looking at here is, as usual, well beyond the heads of most denizens of the Trailerboard.
Now I am curious. Can you give us a few links to "open, brazen, bombastic lying, deception, and guile" by anti-Mormons on this board?
Droopy won't. Droopy lacks substance. He offers no counter points. Rather all he does is bluster and squawk and offer personal attacks. I still am waiting for him to offers some substance to argue against my point that LDS leaders have failed to provide a concise statement of what is LDS doctrine. Rather he calls me intellectually immature and other such vacuous comments. I don't think Droopy is able to defend. So he falls into insults and attacks.
CaliforniaKid wrote:Unfortunately, Will is following in the tradition of Joseph Smith here. Joseph told Sidney Gilbert to use his store to smuggle the Gospel onto the Indian reservation. Joseph told the Mormons in Missouri to pretend they were going to sell their land, even though they in fact had no intention of doing so. Joseph and his top leaders in Nauvoo lied about polygamy, even to the point of canonizing one such denial. Joseph wrote the Book of Abraham, wherein God tells Abraham to tell Sarah to lie to Pharaoh. Joseph wrote D&C 19, which not only reveals that God has used deceptive language about Hell to reinforce his moral teachings, but also commands Martin Harris to keep this knowledge from the general public. The truth is that one who wants for Gospel precedents to justify deception will find them amply provided in the life of Joseph Smith.
It wouldn't be so bad (well, it would be BAD, but not SO BAD) if the tradition didn't continue today.
Open the damn books!
(Nevo, Jan 23) And the Melchizedek Priesthood may not have been restored until the summer of 1830, several months after the organization of the Church.
And now, more of the Wit and Wisdom of William Schryver:
Will Schryver wrote:Of course, what these apostate critics never realize is that the truth is, more often than not, 180 degrees opposite of their conclusions. That's what makes them so valuable. They're like a compass that always points south. Sure, the compass is wrong, but since you know it's reliably wrong, you just learn to go the opposite direction from where it points.
I thank God for the apostate critics of Mormonism. Without them, I never could have possibly come to the knowledge of the truth to the extent I have.
Nimrod wrote:And now, more of the Wit and Wisdom of William Schryver:
Will Schryver wrote:Of course, what these apostate critics never realize is that the truth is, more often than not, 180 degrees opposite of their conclusions. That's what makes them so valuable. They're like a compass that always points south. Sure, the compass is wrong, but since you know it's reliably wrong, you just learn to go the opposite direction from where it points.
I thank God for the apostate critics of Mormonism. Without them, I never could have possibly come to the knowledge of the truth to the extent I have.
What Will has not come to know yet is that one must live what one knows, and what Will lives is NOT the gospel of Jesus Christ. It may indeed be the gospel of Joseph Smith, but it is not the gospel of Jesus Christ.
(Nevo, Jan 23) And the Melchizedek Priesthood may not have been restored until the summer of 1830, several months after the organization of the Church.