Founding Fathers: The Answers to our economic Woes?

[_Kevin Graham]

I've noticed a movement rising from the Right Wing which is vehemently anti-government, and likes to claim the Founding Fathers as their mentors. I think this has to do with the fact that they can't find a viable leader for their movement, so they rely on dead men that presumably, everyone will treat like Moses and Abraham. I've been dealing with a similar argument on a blog by an LDS member who maintains the Founding Fathers created a Republic that is nothing like America today (true), and that is why we are having so many propblems. He wants more power to the states, very little power in the hands of the Federal Government, and maintains that only freedom and liberty will correct our economic and social woes. America has more freedoms than any other country?

The Mount Vernon Statement claims to bring America back to "true Constitutional conservatism" http://www.mrcaction.org/550/petition.asp

Having lived in other countries, it seems to me other countries, even social democracies, provide more freedoms than those granted in the USA. At least that is how I felt.

Then we have theTea Party movement that pretends it has anything in common with the original Tea Party protesters.

I've also noticed that republicans that don't want to own up to the mistakes of the past administrations, now claim that "conservatism" is the answer. I heard Hannity start this about a year ago and more and more online "conservatives" use it to divorce themselves from anything Bush did. Bush wasn't a "real" conservative they say. I don't recall anyone making that distinction during Bush's first term.

[_harmony]

I've also noticed that republicans that don't want to own up to the mistakes of the past administrations, now claim that "conservatism" is the answer. I heard Hannity start this about a year ago and more and more online "conservatives" use it to divorce themselves from anything Bush did. Bush wasn't a "real" conservative they say. I don't recall anyone making that distinction during Bush's first term.

I've noticed this tendency in my children who are very conservative. They refuse to acknowledge that much of our current economy is due to poor management by Bush and company. There is simply an inability to accept the Republican share of responsibility for the current mess.

The moral of the story is: never seek a second term.

[_Gadianton Plumber]

Drives me nuts. When the Right gets kicked out of power, suddenly they start sounding like libertarians. Bush=Obama, they just change colors.


Oh, KG, you do know there is Ron Paul.

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[_Gadianton Plumber]

Yeah, yeah. Pot is the answer.

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[_Gadianton Plumber]

Yeah, yeah. Pot is the answer.

It is not THE answer to all problems, but it sure as heck would help solve a lot of them.

As for waking up the public from their deep trance of government brainwashing, legalizing psychedelics is the answer. The government doesn't want peoples minds expanded, otherwise they will question authority and think for themselves. They can't have that. Have you ever noticed how the hippie culture is so involved in political activism? Have you ever wondered why? Connect the dots.

You think the use of mind altering substances will get people to care about their own loss of freedom? Not going to happen. You think using the same will wake people up? Sorry bub, but taking an agent designed to remove you from reality is not the method to change it.

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[_Gadianton Plumber]

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It is not THE answer to all problems, but it sure as heck would help solve a lot of them.


You think the use of mind altering substances will get people to care about their own loss of freedom? Not going to happen. You think using the same will wake people up? Sorry bub, but taking an agent designed to remove you from reality is not the method to change it.

Have you ever taken a psychedelic? I think you are confusing psychedelics with opiates and alcohol. They are the opposite, my friend. Opiates (heroin, etc) alcohol and others like cocaine reduce consciousness. Psychedelics expand and increase consciousness. They also increase IQ according to studies. They cause you to WAKE UP. Which is what this world needs. They don't hide reality, the reveal it, in all it's ugly colors, and give you motivation to change it for the better.

Psychedelics are to the brain as a magnifying glass is to the eye.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychedelic

Psychedelics may be fun. They may even help you gain personal insight. They may even be safe. I agree they should all be legal and unregulated. But the are what they are, they warp reality. They do not magnify anything except your own mind's ability to interpret random stimuli. To attribute mystical or clarifying properties to something like this reveals a potentially unhealthy relationship to the substance. May I suggest you seek another opinion on this?

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