Please do not judge Mormonism by this Will person

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Please do not judge Mormonism by this Will person

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I have read non-stop posts about this Will person on this board and others (ie http://www.mormonapologetics.org/index.php? ) and he is absolutely embarrassing the Mormon population.

I hope those of you who are not Mormon, were Mormon and now not Mormon, Mormon, or doubting Mormon do not label all Mormons with the characteristics of this Will Shyrevbiersvffhbersfererer fella.
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Trust me, nobody is. Will is Will. Hate or hate him, you just gotta hate 'im.

Mormonism doesn't need help looking silly.
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Will who? Just kidding, but seriously, with Joseph Smith marrying other men's wives and daughters after sending them on missions, seeing slippery treasures through a magic rock in his hat, and translating Egyptian burial scrolls as the handwritten words of Abraham, who needs Will Shryver to make Mormonism look bad?
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lostindc wrote:I have read non-stop posts about this Will person on this board and others (ie http://www.mormonapologetics.org/index.php? ) and he is absolutely embarrassing the Mormon population.

I hope those of you who are not Mormon, were Mormon and now not Mormon, Mormon, or doubting Mormon do not label all Mormons with the characteristics of this Will Shyrevbiersvffhbersfererer fella.


Sorry to depart from the party line -- but I really should mention that in all
my dealings with Will Schryver, he has been a perfect gentleman and was
consistently honest and forthright (so far as I could ever determine).

Now -- it is no doubt that many others here (and there), including observant
LDS, have much different experiences to relate.

But (if you're lurking, Will) since he's always been decent and honest with
me, I feel that I should be decent and honest with him.

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While he has said a couple of rude things to me, I found that once he realized I don't care about the hot air, he stopped attacking me personally and got to the meat of the discussion - which I felt were valid arguments. But I don't agree with all his points.
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lostindc wrote:I have read non-stop posts about this Will person on this board and others (ie http://www.mormonapologetics.org/index.php? ) and he is absolutely embarrassing the Mormon population.

Agreed.

lostindc wrote:I hope those of you who ... were Mormon and now not Mormon ... do not label all Mormons with the characteristics of this Will Shyrevbiersvffhbersfererer fella.

I do not. Will is a cowboy Mormon in the tradition of Porter Rockwell.

Nor do I label all Mormons by the fallacies of apologetics and FARMS. Otherwise, I would think Mormons all sneering and condescending. The vast majority of LDS Inc followers that I have known are like Gazelam. Earnest in their beliefs, patient in awaiting the time God will reveal all. They use scientific and scholarly knowledge in their daily lives, but when it comes to defining the hereafter--they continue their belief in what cannot yet be proven.

Others I have known began asking questions, and that is when it unraveled for them. You might say they grew impatient awaiting the time that God would reveal all. I am one of them--this inquiring mind wanted and keeps wanting to know.
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The Straw man isn't just another bad spin doctor, but a true Richard Cranium in every conceivable sense… kiss his ass if you wish, but if you turn a deaf ear and blind eye to the garbage (insults) he spews out, then that’s your choice.

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Seriously DC, do you really think that investigators and potential victims err converts would be on either of these forums?
The only non Mormon folks here or there already have a very strong opinion of LDS Inc.

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Uncle Dale wrote:...since he's always been decent and honest with
me, I feel that I should be decent and honest with him.

That has been my experience too. I know Will rubs a lot of people the wrong way, but even though I don't agree with everything he says or how he says it I value his perspective. Will is a straight shooter. Sure he's acerbic at times, but I find in many of his posts a wisdom and gravity (and sense of humor) that seems to be entirely lacking in the vitriolic outpourings of the board's self-appointed attack dogs who shall go unnamed. Maybe I'm just a bleeding heart, but I read many of Will's more lacerating posts as being of the "more in sorrow than anger" variety.
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No comment.
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