Meeting with SP
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_Black Moclips
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Re: Meeting with SP
Hey Zeez -
I'm in a very similar predicament with a wife wanting to do anything to reconcile nagging doubts, and me, ready to speak my mind, follow where the truth leads, and not intimidated or impressed by church authority at all. I don't think you can both "win" in the meeting. Either 1) your wife is soothed by the SP's comments, which means you sitting there biting your tongue in half, or 2) you speak your mind, get into the debate, which will most likely intellectually stimulate you but really does a number on your wife. I guess one other outcome could be your wife actually coming around and considering your viewpoint valid, though only you how likely that would be.
It surely would be an interesting and exciting meeting though, so I might just go anyway and see what happens were I in your shoes. But then again, I know my my wife has enough pressure and stress with just everyday life and kids, and I wouldn't be a good DH were I to cause her more angst just so I could mix it up with an SP.
Good luck with whatever your decide.
I'm in a very similar predicament with a wife wanting to do anything to reconcile nagging doubts, and me, ready to speak my mind, follow where the truth leads, and not intimidated or impressed by church authority at all. I don't think you can both "win" in the meeting. Either 1) your wife is soothed by the SP's comments, which means you sitting there biting your tongue in half, or 2) you speak your mind, get into the debate, which will most likely intellectually stimulate you but really does a number on your wife. I guess one other outcome could be your wife actually coming around and considering your viewpoint valid, though only you how likely that would be.
It surely would be an interesting and exciting meeting though, so I might just go anyway and see what happens were I in your shoes. But then again, I know my my wife has enough pressure and stress with just everyday life and kids, and I wouldn't be a good DH were I to cause her more angst just so I could mix it up with an SP.
Good luck with whatever your decide.
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_ttribe
Re: Meeting with SP
Rambo wrote:Nooo are you serious? If so that is completely nuts!
In that case I will be careful what I say as well. What happens if someone just has questions and just wants some answers how could you get in church trouble for that? If the church stalked me like that it wouldn't help me gain a stronger testimony that is for sure.
If I were you zeezrom I would flat out lie and say you are not zeezrom. Its none of there business.
Let's just say, there's some apparent exaggeration in PP's post; perhaps that should be an universal understanding at this point.
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_Nimrod
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Re: Meeting with SP
I would go in with D&C 132 at the ready.
I would ask the SP pointblank with my my wife there whether she will have to share me in the Celestial Kingdom with other women for eternity. If he says no, then read to him from D&C 132.
I would ask her what she thinks of so sharing me in the hereafter, which is a necessary part of the new and everlasting covenant. If she's in denial that such is necessary, then have her read from D&C 132.
Then ask the SP if D&C 132 has been excised from the LDS canon.
I would ask the SP pointblank with my my wife there whether she will have to share me in the Celestial Kingdom with other women for eternity. If he says no, then read to him from D&C 132.
I would ask her what she thinks of so sharing me in the hereafter, which is a necessary part of the new and everlasting covenant. If she's in denial that such is necessary, then have her read from D&C 132.
Then ask the SP if D&C 132 has been excised from the LDS canon.
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Re: Meeting with SP
ttribe wrote:Rambo wrote:Nooo are you serious? If so that is completely nuts!
In that case I will be careful what I say as well. What happens if someone just has questions and just wants some answers how could you get in church trouble for that? If the church stalked me like that it wouldn't help me gain a stronger testimony that is for sure.
If I were you zeezrom I would flat out lie and say you are not zeezrom. Its none of there business.
Let's just say, there's some apparent exaggeration in PP's post; perhaps that should be an universal understanding at this point.
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Re: Meeting with SP
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Re: Meeting with SP
It sounds like you done kicked your testimonkey's ass to the curb.
Your SP will do nothing but attempt to keep you in, PERIOD.
He may even do what Tal Bachman's SP did.
Bottom line is you no longer believe. Once they realize that, they will use you against your wife and her against you.
Under no circumstances should you allow her to be alone with anyone sympathetic to the church. They will exercise her "respect" of their position in an attempt to sway her.
Personally I would cancel the appt. Work it out with your wife. Keep the SP and his minions out of your marriage.
Your SP will do nothing but attempt to keep you in, PERIOD.
He may even do what Tal Bachman's SP did.
Bottom line is you no longer believe. Once they realize that, they will use you against your wife and her against you.
Under no circumstances should you allow her to be alone with anyone sympathetic to the church. They will exercise her "respect" of their position in an attempt to sway her.
Personally I would cancel the appt. Work it out with your wife. Keep the SP and his minions out of your marriage.
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_Scottie
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Re: Meeting with SP
Rambo wrote:Nooo are you serious? If so that is completely nuts!
In that case I will be careful what I say as well. What happens if someone just has questions and just wants some answers how could you get in church trouble for that? If the church stalked me like that it wouldn't help me gain a stronger testimony that is for sure.
If I were you zeezrom I would flat out lie and say you are not zeezrom. Its none of there business.
PP's story leaves out quite a few significant details. While I can't guarantee that your name won't somehow find its way into a SP from posting on MAD, the odds are quite slim.
I CAN tell you that they will never find their way from THIS board, unless you give the readers enough information to figure out who you are.
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_Rambo
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Re: Meeting with SP
Polygamy-Porter wrote:
He may even do what Tal Bachman's SP did.
What did he do?
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_ttribe
Re: Meeting with SP
Scottie wrote:PP's story leaves out quite a few significant details. While I can't guarantee that your name won't somehow find its way into a SP from posting on MAD, the odds are quite slim.
I CAN tell you that they will never find their way from THIS board, unless you give the readers enough information to figure out who you are.
Given my failed effort to wrestle information out of the MA&DB moderators regarding the identity of a critic who posted my wife's name in a thread (while claiming to know me in real life), I suspect the same holds true for THAT board as well.
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_ttribe
Re: Meeting with SP
Rambo wrote:What did he do?
Told him to stop singing that HORRIBLE song! ;-)