Source of said list? Also, really this argument is rather academic (pun intended) insomuch as there are numerous highly ranked individual programs at schools which may be substantially weaker in other areas.
Source of said list? Also, really this argument is rather academic (pun intended) insomuch as there are numerous highly ranked individual programs at schools which may be substantially weaker in other areas.
I just followed the link posted earlier in the thread. US News and World Report's annual review of schools.
It always does my heart good to see my school and/or my kids' schools ranked high on the list (and none of us ever attended a school in Utah).
(Nevo, Jan 23) And the Melchizedek Priesthood may not have been restored until the summer of 1830, several months after the organization of the Church.
Some of the bias comes from companies having hired BYU grads only to see them go back to Utah and leave the company holding the bag. Some won't shut up about Mormonism/LDS/BYU/Zion and the rest. Proselyting on the job does turn off fellow employees and too many from this culture do it, at times even without knowing what they do.
It is like the companies that want to hire LDS Returned missionaries because of their two year sales training stint and their willingness to do anything they are told by someone 'in authority' above them. A lot of the questionable financial problem outfits do this because the RMs don't question, they just follow orders.
Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. That way when you do criticize them you'll be a mile away and you'll have their shoes.
ttribe wrote:Source of said list? Also, really this argument is rather academic (pun intended) insomuch as there are numerous highly ranked individual programs at schools which may be substantially weaker in other areas.
Agreed. Environmental law at UofU is something like 18th in the nation.
UofU is rising in some areas and not in others.
Oh for shame, how the mortals put the blame on us gods, for they say evils come from us, but it is they, rather, who by their own recklessness win sorrow beyond what is given... Zeus (1178 BC)
harmony wrote:I just followed the link posted earlier in the thread. US News and World Report's annual review of schools.
It always does my heart good to see my school and/or my kids' schools ranked high on the list (and none of us ever attended a school in Utah).
Let me provide an example of why this is a problem. My graduate program in accounting is currently ranked #3 in the nation (it was #1 in 2008) - http://marriottschool.byu.edu/news/rankings.cfm. However, your U.S. News list is for the entire University. Frankly, I was better off getting my MAcc there than to go to UCLA which doesn't even offer a degree specifically in accounting. The same holds true for ASU which has had a top 25 program in accounting for years now.
ttribe wrote:Let me provide an example of why this is a problem. My graduate program in accounting is currently ranked...
There was an accountant who fell from a 5-story building onto a parked car and was still alive. The paramedic told him it was a miracle that he lived through that - noting that the only way to survive that kind of impact would be if he was in a completely relaxed state. The accountant replied, "While I was falling, my life flashed before my eyes and it was so boring I fell asleep."
Oh for shame, how the mortals put the blame on us gods, for they say evils come from us, but it is they, rather, who by their own recklessness win sorrow beyond what is given... Zeus (1178 BC)
zeezrom wrote:There was an accountant who fell from a 5-story building onto a parked car and was still alive. The paramedic told him it was a miracle that he lived through that - noting that the only way to survive that kind of impact would be if he was in a completely relaxed state. The accountant replied, "While I was falling, my life flashed before my eyes and it was so boring I fell asleep."
ttribe wrote:Let me provide an example of why this is a problem. My graduate program in accounting is currently ranked #3 in the nation (it was #1 in 2008) - http://marriottschool.byu.edu/news/rankings.cfm. However, your U.S. News list is for the entire University. Frankly, I was better off getting my MAcc there than to go to UCLA which doesn't even offer a degree specifically in accounting. The same holds true for ASU which has had a top 25 program in accounting for years now.
Evidently, to US News, a university is more than the sum of its parts.
(Nevo, Jan 23) And the Melchizedek Priesthood may not have been restored until the summer of 1830, several months after the organization of the Church.
harmony wrote:Evidently, to US News, a university is more than the sum of its parts.
And such rankings are rather useless insomuch as they provide little or no insight to the individual with respect to particular degree programs.
Except that the ranking of the sum of all its parts does make a difference when you are trying to get a job.
Oh for shame, how the mortals put the blame on us gods, for they say evils come from us, but it is they, rather, who by their own recklessness win sorrow beyond what is given... Zeus (1178 BC)