RockSlider wrote:When I quit Novell (after 10 years), I started up my own company (Cascade Computer Consulting). At the time, most of my work was writing custom OS2 device drivers and custom Novell Netware NLM's.
I worked at Novell for 6 years. We might know each other. I wrote all the engineering specs for NDS directory services.
Cool, I worked with Sun on the evolution of Java's JNDI, and wrote Novell's first Java API for NDS. I wrote the original Super-Labs automation before that, and the SFT-3 installation before that.
RockSlider wrote:Cool, I worked with Sun on the evolution of Java's JNDI, and wrote Novell's first Java API for NDS. I wrote the original Super-Labs automation before that, and the SFT-3 installation before that.
Hmmm. We probably do know each other. I worked on the Java APIs for NDS (I moved from strictly internal engineering to documenting the NDS APIs, both C and Java) before I quit in 1999.
EDUCATION??? Shouldn’t that NOT be a problem? I mean the LDS church proudly proclaims that God chose a lowly, uneducated farm boy to lead His people. So it is curious that the focus shifted to “look at the Mormon scholars” for validation purposes. Does using one’s real name give more credence to the person’s comments? I have no problem using my real name (well maybe at most I shouldn’t use it just to avoid embarrassing or enraging (causing conflict) my still Mormon family, by the off-chance that they actually viewed these forums), but what would be the point. I’m nobody special (except to myself, my family, and my friends of course), y’all wouldn’t know me from Steve. So how can one be “hiding behind” an alias if no one even knows of them to begin with? Obviously, there is something disingenuous about using different aliases. And I don’t understand how a person can do it, but that is just me. . . I’m a terrible liar, and I’d make a horrible actress!
RockSlider wrote:Cool, I worked with Sun on the evolution of Java's JNDI, and wrote Novell's first Java API for NDS. I wrote the original Super-Labs automation before that, and the SFT-3 installation before that.
Hmmm. We probably do know each other. I worked on the Java APIs for NDS (I moved from strictly internal engineering to documenting the NDS APIs, both C and Java) before I quit in 1999.
I think I wrote the original NDS api around 1995-6. It was bleeding edge java at that time. Been wacking it out ever since.
The Dude wrote:William Schryver appeared on MADB in early 2006 using a few different aliases (Provis and Chozah, maybe another I can't remember), including one that was banned (Chozah). I only bring this up so he can predictably deny it, which is always a hoot. Under one alias (Provis, I think) he baited critics by pretending to be a creationist who had a personal revelation about the flaws of radiocarbon dating. Some of his aliases have been expunged from the record. Eventually he came out of the closet under his real name.
During this early period when he wasn't using his real name, he sent emails to Dan Vogel trying to lure him into participating in a documentary about LDS critics. Will's method was extremely disingenuous, since he used one sockpuppet to challenge and criticize Dan on the message boards, while at the same time using his real name and a totally different personal charm to lure Dan into the documentary. Will also struck up an email exchange with Kevin Graham, and couldn't resist telling Kevin how he was two-timing Dan Vogel, but Kevin told Dan what was really going on and soon the whole world found out. Thus began the first of William Schryver's major episodes of egg-on-the-face. There have been many since then. He is a major talent.
Eventually he chose the Book of Abraham as his pet project, likely because it seemed to be a hot topic where an amateur could quickly gain credibility among apologists (something like "If Brent Metcalfe can do it, then why can't I?"). The ruse worked and now apologists give him credit.
Will is a fool, and an utter poser, but still lots of fun to have around. I have known him since he got his start on these boards, and I hope I am still around when he ultimately apostatizes from the Church. Pride cometh before the fall, and I don't think anyone on these boards has more pride than William Schryver.
This is a most informative post. I believe a great deal of light has been shed. Thanks
lostindc wrote:Can someone tell me a little something about Bowflex Bill Shryver's background? Is he an academic, if so I am guessing he hails from the Devry.
His rogue apologist role is really played out. I am beginning to believe that dissent against his childish fits are starting to arise.
Does anyone know if this is true. I am certian he has called someone an apostate but then they have come back to church later on. He calls people apostates all the time he must have been wrong once. He called me one pretty quick and I didn't even finish Shaken Faith Syndrome yet. Maybe I'll fall into line again just to prove Will wrong.
Does anyone know if this is true. I am certian he has called someone an apostate but then they have come back to church later on. He calls people apostates all the time he must have been wrong once. He called me one pretty quick and I didn't even finish Shaken Faith Syndrome yet. Maybe I'll fall into line again just to prove Will wrong.
Who knows. It could be that just interacting with Will is enough to push someone wavering over the edge into apostasy.
I mean, really, if he represents the fruit of the gospel, it's pretty rotten.
We hate to seem like we don’t trust every nut with a story, but there’s evidence we can point to, and dance while shouting taunting phrases.