why me wrote: History is a lame excuse to leave any church.
Does that include a church whose leader says if history did not happen as they say then the church is a fraud?
Our whole strength rests on the validity of that vision. It either occurred or it did not occur. If it did not, then this work is a fraud. Gordon B Hinckley
why me think?? wrote:If every believing member of the baptist, catholic, methodist or any other church that has been in existence for over a 150 years would look at their history, they would be shocked by its history.
That would be great. To get all of those people to stop being such tools and actually start thinking on their own.
People make history and people are not perfect. History is a lame excuse to leave any church. And certainly Mormon history is tame when compared to the protestant sects and to catholicism. And then of course, we have the histories centered in muslims and jews. History is a faith killer for sure.
Yeah instead of doing something that represents your choice like I dunno, showing up for services?
Nah just sit back on your fat lazy hypocritical ass and show your support to a few people online who don't care.
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"Finally, for your rather strange idea that miracles are somehow linked to the amount of gay sexual gratification that is taking place would require that primitive Christianity was launched by gay sex, would it not?"
Willy Law wrote:Maybe some of you ladies that went through the YW program can chime in and agree or disagree with my wife and I. We were having a conversation at lunch today about our wedding. Even in our TBM days we used to joke about what a horrible day it was. The only slot we could get in the assembly line that is the SLC temple wedding machine was 8AM. Which means we had to be at the temple at 6AM. Neither of us are morning people and it made for a groggy morning that got worse as the morning went on.
Anyway we started talking about how that temple wedding is built up to the YW from the time they are 12. They are indoctrinated to believe that their temple wedding will surpass any wedding they could imagine outside of the temple. To us this is a complete scam. Most of these girls have been to civil weddings and seen how beautiful they are and what a special day it is for the bride, their families and friends. They are then told how much more wonderful their wedding will be inside the temple. We estimated that 90% of women married in the temple have never seen a sealing before, they really have no idea what they are in for and take their leaders words as gospel that it is far and away more special than a civil wedding. Then they arrive at the temple at 6AM, too tired to comprehend what is going on. They are dressed in strange clothes and escorted into room where their husband to be is dressed like the bastard child of a masonic french baker. The ceremony itself is devoid of any expression of love or affection for your spouse, instead you are given some instruction by some old guy dressed in white that neither of you know and then you answer yes to something read directly from D&C. This is a classic bait and switch. For now these YW are magic underwear wearing members of the masonic endowment club. The day most of them have been dreaming of becomes, like my wife, just a blur of confusion and let downs that you cannot discuss with anyone. Ladies, please put in my line if I am overstating.
Interesting that you would choose a screen name of a trader and murderer…unless that really is your name. In which case my apologies. Oh and great mocking of the Mormons...but that is what this board is for.
Pa Pa wrote:Interesting that you would choose a screen name of a trader and murderer…unless that really is your name. In which case my apologies. Oh and great mocking of the Mormons...but that is what this board is for.
CFR that William Law was involved in the import/export business...
From the Ernest L. Wilkinson Diaries: "ELW dreams he's spattered w/ grease. Hundreds steal his greasy pants."
It's a lost cause, ludwig. He loves me and he still won't give me smilies. :*(
(Nevo, Jan 23) And the Melchizedek Priesthood may not have been restored until the summer of 1830, several months after the organization of the Church.
Pa Pa wrote:Interesting that you would choose a screen name of a trader and murderer…unless that really is your name. In which case my apologies. Oh and great mocking of the Mormons...but that is what this board is for.
CFR that William Law was involved in the import/export business...
No source would do since they are LDS...be for real. Why even ask?