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_Lucinda
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Sexism

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After listening to a bit of conference today, I can't stop thinking about how I totally missed how sexist the Mormon church is. I was one of those that thought women are so blessed to have children and be nurturers, it doesn't matter that the men have the priesthood and lead this church. Heavenly mother is so sacred, that's why we don't talk about her. And on and on......
You are not going to believe this--of my best friends went for her stake-level TR interview last year. The dude asked her if she wears her g's night and day. She replied that she tries. He said to her:"you are not to remove the garment unless a priesthood holder tells you it's ok.". Unbelievable. Is that really how Mormons want to raise their daughters? I never want my daughter to hear a line like that. I'm not demanding Mormons give women the priesthood, they are too steeped in their traditions from the 1800s. I'm just saying I'm soooo glad to be pulling away from an organization that doesn't give women enough value. I'll get off my soap box now. Thanks for listening.
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The Stake level interview was out of line. The guy who said it is a jerk. But that is only one guy. Also, this friend could have issued a complaint. I have never heard of such reasoning about only a priesthood holder can tell women to remove their garments.

However, why be critical of the entire church? It would be like me being critical of the entire catholic church because something the priest said. It would be crazy for me to do so.
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why me wrote: "However, why be critical of the entire church? It would be like me being critical of the entire catholic church because something the priest said. It would be crazy for me to do so."

Why not be critical of the whole outfit when they don't train the leadership, don't have solid information as to what it really Doctrine and what is not? I would condemn the whole Catholic Church for one child molesting priest. The leaders say they speak for God. If so, why doesn't he care enough about a child to let his 'servants' know they have child molesting dirtbags in their midst?

LDS and Catholics both know little that doesn't hit them between the eyes.
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I've decided to take advantage of my priesthood power and tell my wife to take off any garment(s) at will. In fact, I think I'll confer the priesthood on her so she can take it all off whenever she wishes.
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zeezrom wrote:I've decided to take advantage of my priesthood power and tell my wife to take off any garment(s) at will. In fact, I think I'll confer the priesthood on her so she can take it all off whenever she wishes.


Probably best to visit Vickie's before you do that. Wife's gotta have something pretty to wear... :-)
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I just thought of something. How would a man feel if he were alone in a room with a female Mormon bishop and she asks him, "are you wearing your garments night and day?"

Think about that for a moment, oh ye men of MDB. I just had this weird feeling of what it might be like for women to be asked about their underwear by a man alone in a room. What other group of people in this world worry about this kind of crap. For heaven's sake!
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Joseph wrote:Why not be critical of the whole outfit when they don't train the leadership, don't have solid information as to what it really Doctrine and what is not?

I agree. Plus, these leaders are used to the culture of: what I say goes because I am your priesthood leader.
Zeezrom wrote:I just thought of something. How would a man feel if he were alone in a room with a female Mormon bishop and she asks him, "are you wearing your garments night and day?"

Think about that for a moment, oh ye men of MDB. I just had this weird feeling of what it might be like for women to be asked about their underwear by a man alone in a room. What other group of people in this world worry about this kind of crap. For heaven's sake!

It's strange for sure! Situations like this get more and more strange the more I pull away from this religion. I'm so glad I don't see these guys as having some sort of dominion over me anymore. I think now, if a stake leader told me that I'd get the giggles.
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Maybe when the bishop asks if u r wearing G's u can say, "nah, I'm wearing a pink bra and polka dot panties- the kind that don't show a panty line. Have you heard of these before? They are really nice. I used to wear g-strings often but found these ones that hug the cheeks nicely but are missing the seam are the way to go. Have you heard about the wireless support bra? Oh wow. Now these are nice, bishop. Now I do wear a different brand of panties to bed. Would you like to know about those?"
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zeezrom wrote: Now I do wear a different brand of panties to bed. Would you like to know about those?"


Um... a small correction: Nothing to bed. There's no point.
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Hey Zee...

zeezrom wrote:I just thought of something. How would a man feel if he were alone in a room with a female Mormon bishop and she asks him, "are you wearing your garments night and day?"

Think about that for a moment, oh ye men of MDB. I just had this weird feeling of what it might be like for women to be asked about their underwear by a man alone in a room. What other group of people in this world worry about this kind of crap. For heaven's sake!


Ummm Zee, some of here have thought a lot about it! ;-) We have lived it. It is an abomination.

Think about girls, as young as twelve who are asked about their sexuality by a grown man, as they sit alone behind closed doors.

There should NEVER, EVER be grown men alone with girls discussing sex.
How this happens today in the LDS church ASTOUNDS me. Find me any other organization in the civilized world who allows this, nay, promotes it, claims it is of God.

It is CRAZINESS!

So, Zee... and any other parent who is faking belief, or on the fence, if you do nothing else please do not allow your girls to go through the "interview."

~td~

In addition, in my opinion, it is not healthy for a marriage to have a woman discussing her private sex life or choice of underwear, with a neighbor man who claims authority over her. It is equally unhealthy for a man to discuss his marriage and sex life with neighbor guys.

Just keeping it real! :-)
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