Darth J wrote:Today's Mormons live in every state of the U.S. and in 162 countries. Mormon men and women can be found in all professional fields — doctors, teachers, police officers, scientists and soldiers. The Mormon Tabernacle Choir has sung at presidential inaugurations and at the 2002 Winter Olympic Games in Salt Lake City.
This statement is irrelevant to the history of polygamy in the LDS branch of Mormonism.
Manfred wrote:I said "one."
Manfred wrote:I said "one."
liz3564 wrote:
Polygamy is a "hot button" topic here with me, and many other posters.
Look, I'm a Church member...but I acknowledge that what happened happened. I also acknowledge that the plural marriage doctrine that is still supported by our current canon (Section 132) DOES NOT make sense, in comparison to the rest of Christ's teachings on the subject of marriage in both the Bible AND the Book of Mormon.
It's a problem that needs resolution.
why me wrote:Not to rain on anyone's parade but this does not look like an official church website. But it does look as if someone pasted at the bottom the official logo of the church. It all does look suspicious.
As far as polygamy is concerned, the information is in section 132 and so I see no hiding going on. Also, I think that it is wonderful that the lds church practiced polygamy. It sets itself apart from the rest of christianity and makes lds history interesting.
And it does seem that many of Joseph Smith's wives received a spiritual witness of the practice before they consented to be sealed to Joseph Smith. And that speaks volumes about the practice. Many would have said no and kept saying no if that witness did not occur.
liz3564 wrote:Here is another little story which flies in the face of freedom of choice involving women and the choice of whom they married:"Warren Snow was Bishop of the Church at Manti, San Pete County, Utah. He had several wives, but there was a fair, buxom young woman in the town that Snow wanted for a wife. He made love to her with all his powers, went to parties where she was, visited her at her home, and proposed to make her his wife. She thanked him for the honor offered, but told him she was then engaged to a young man, a member of the Church, and consequently could not marry the old priest. This was no sufficient reason to Snow. He told her it was the will of God that she should marry him, and she must do so; that the young man could be got rid of, sent on a mission or dealt with in some way so as to release her from her engagement--that, in fact, a promise made to the young man was not binding, when she was informed that it was contrary to the wishes of the authorities.
The girl continued obstinate. The "teachers" of the town visited her and advised her to marry Bishop Snow. Her parents, under the orders of the Counselors of the Bishop, also insisted that their daughter must marry the old man. She still refused. Then the authorities called on the young man and directed him to give up the young woman. This he steadfastly refused to do. He was promised Church preferment, celestial rewards, and everything that could be thought of--all to no purpose. He remained true to his intended, and said he would die before he would surrender his intended wife to the embraces of another.
This unusual resistance of authority by the young people made Snow more anxious than ever to capture the girl. The young man was ordered to go on a mission to some distant locality, so that the authorities would have no trouble in effecting their purpose of forcing the girl to marry as they desired. But the mission was refused by the still contrary and unfaithful young man.
It was then determined that the rebellious young man must be forced by harsh treatment to respect the advice and orders of the Priesthood. His fate was left to Bishop Snow for his decision. He decided that the young man should be castrated; Snow saying, "When that is done, he will not be liable to want "
This is from "THE LIFE AND CONFESSIONS OF THE LATE Mormon BISHOP, JOHN D. LEE; ALSO THE TRUE HISTORY OF THE HORRIBLE BUTCHERY KNOWN AS THE MOUNTAIN MEADOWS MASSACRE" (How's that for a title). It is taken from page 285.