The religious experience vs. the experience of reality

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Re: The religious experience vs. the experience of reality

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TAO wrote:Na, be at peace Runtu. Wasn't talking of your experiences. Merely saying that their spiritual experiences are the only thing that can drive them to a true willpower. People alone can't create a genuine willpower usually.

TAO,

I don't know why it is that Runtu, who is being very reasonable, has experienced LDS culture in a manner that few (and I mean very few) here can claim, and has significant applicable life experience should be critiqued as he is being. That seems to be the price one must pay for being a reasonable person I guess.

One thing I am confident in, is that when life brings its inevitable experience Runtu will probably be one of the first in line to offer you support without actual judgment or looking to fulfill some personal motive.
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Jersey Girl wrote:Runtu,

Somewhere on this thread, you indicated that someone close to you has Aspergers. I'm assuming that in their communication, that person faces instances where their communication is misunderstood or where they misunderstand the intentions of others.

Take a few steps back and try not to take what TAO says personally. He may not intend it the way you are "feeling" it.


I have it, too (it's often hereditary), though not nearly as severe as my son. So, yes, I have the same tendency to say things are make sense to me but not to others and to misunderstand what other people say.

Yes, this is an intensely personal subject for me, and it bugs the hell out of me when people say there is some sort of moral code that means gay people must resist temptation and forgo real intimacy in this life (I know, it wasn't TAO who said that).

What people do with their lives is up to them. I know what it is like to feel like who I am is wrong and needs to be changed. I wish I had learned at an earlier age to accept the good parts of me and not rely on anyone else's judgments.
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honorentheos wrote:I don't know why it is that Runtu, who is being very reasonable, has experienced LDS culture in a manner that few (and I mean very few) here can claim, and has significant applicable life experience should be critiqued as he is being. That seems to be the price one must pay for being a reasonable person I guess.

One thing I am confident in, is that when life brings its inevitable experience Runtu will probably be one of the first in line to offer you support without actual judgment or looking to fulfill some personal motive.


Be at peace honor, I did not intend to critique. All I wished to point out is that motivation by peer-pressure is not good enough to use in the process. It takes motivation by self, or motivation by the spirit in order for it to work. Runtu basically said the same thing on his post @ 12:56.

Honor, I believe life is always giving experiences that send you this way and that. It's up to one to see the order. But your life isn't over yet either, that it isn't.
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Runtu

I have it, too (it's often hereditary), though not nearly as severe as my son.


I'm fairly well acquainted with Aspergers.

So, yes, I have the same tendency to say things are make sense to me but not to others and to misunderstand what other people say.


Then you can relate to what I suggested.

Yes, this is an intensely personal subject for me, and it bugs the hell out of me when people say there is some sort of moral code that means gay people must resist temptation and forgo real intimacy in this life (I know, it wasn't TAO who said that).


That TAO didn't say it, was the point I tried to make with you. There are just a few topics that when they come up on a board, I avoid them because they touch on issues that I repond to with perhaps too much sensitively and I know that I won't be able to maintain objectivity unless I go into a more professional/detached mode...and sometimes I do. Hint: When you see me double spacing a post, that's typically me fending off a reaction and mentally pulling myself back on topic. :-)

What people do with their lives is up to them. I know what it is like to feel like who I am is wrong and needs to be changed. I wish I had learned at an earlier age to accept the good parts of me and not rely on anyone else's judgments.


Runtu...life is a journey is it not? Not many of us escape feeling judged and harshly so, and most of us wish we could roll back the tape and deal with those types of situations with the wisdom we gain over the years.

But we can't.

For whatever it may be worth to you, notice that I haven't shared my perspective on whether or not homosexuals should be judged or what I think about the effectiveness of the type of behavior mod TAO has suggested, because no one has asked me.

My only interest in joining this thread was for a chance to engage TAO. In my view, TAO is a breath of fresh air to this forum. I tend to value those people whom I think are unique in some way, so my joining this thread is two-fold in purpose. I want to know what TAO thinks, but more than that, I want to know HOW he thinks it.

TAO's presence on this board is the one and only thing that has generated any interest in me for a very long time and that has absolutely nothing to do with the topic and everything to do with who I am and what I devote myself to in real life.

:-)
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Long story short...TAO is teaching me.
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Re: The religious experience vs. the experience of reality

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Hey TAO,

Whats it like to have a board nanny?
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MrStakhanovite wrote:Hey TAO,

Whats it like to have a board nanny?


L.O.L...that was entirely necessary...I was thinking "board mother" but "nanny" definitely works...
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Jersey Girl
One of the reasons for that is this board typically resembles a wall of intellectual graffiti.



schreech wrote:
MrStakhanovite wrote:Hey TAO,

Whats it like to have a board nanny?


L.O.L...that was entirely necessary...I was thinking "board mother" but "nanny" definitely works...


I rest my case.
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Re: The religious experience vs. the experience of reality

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MrStakhanovite wrote:Hey TAO,

Whats it like to have a board nanny?


Pleasant indeed, that it is.
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Re: The religious experience vs. the experience of reality

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schreech wrote:
MrStakhanovite wrote:Hey TAO,

Whats it like to have a board nanny?


L.O.L...that was entirely necessary...I was thinking "board mother" but "nanny" definitely works...


It's like having a Fairy God Mother... except in real life!
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