Half of members would like to return to polygamy?

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
TAO wrote:Nope. Not the purpose. Guess again. The purpose has little to do with sex, and much to do with service and justice. Read it again.


This is why people get assed out with Mormons. They always lie.

Look.

Faithful Mormon Males get to have a lot of women, get to f*** them for eternity, and that makes them a God or Creator or Whatever.

TAO. Let's get to brass tacks. What's the point of polygamy... You know... For eternity.

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I've often wondered about the rational of believing that on Earth polygamy is a no go, but heavenly ok? It doesn't make sense to need many women to create spirit children if you believe that you have the whole rest of eternity to create them, build random planets, and sit around with God...
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greentam wrote:I've often wondered about the rational of believing that on Earth polygamy is a no go, but heavenly ok? It doesn't make sense to need many women to create spirit children if you believe that you have the whole rest of eternity to create them, build random planets, and sit around with God...


The reason for polygamy in heaven isn't spiritual children directly, actually - the primary reason I have found is for fairness; so everybody who deserves exaltation can have it.
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TAO wrote:The reason for polygamy in heaven isn't spiritual children directly, actually - the primary reason I have found is for fairness; so everybody who deserves exaltation can have it.


Polygamy has nothing to do with exaltation; were that the case, Christ would have mentioned it somewhere in the New Testament. He didn't. If it's not important enough for Christ, it's not important enough for me.
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harmony wrote:Polygamy has nothing to do with exaltation; were that the case, Christ would have mentioned it somewhere in the New Testament.


Christ didn't write the New Testament, nor was everything he said necessarily recorded in the New Testament. Also, he kept certain practices secret (see Mount of Transfiguration, no talking until Resurrection), meaning we have no idea whether he mentioned it or not to those he taught.

He didn't.


I have yet to have a person show me this.

If it's not important enough for Christ, it's not important enough for me.


I know it is important enough for Christ, for Christ is a man of justice. I have seen part of the reason behind it harmony. It is meant to be a just thing.
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TAO wrote:I know it is important enough for Christ, for Christ is a man of justice. I have seen part of the reason behind it harmony. It is meant to be a just thing.


You know no such thing. You know nothing; you believe. There is no "know".

And there is nothing to "see" about polygamy. In order for one to believe polygamy is from God, one has to believe God is a respector of persons... that God loves his sons more than he loves his daughters.

Were God to do that, he would not be God.

Therefore... polygamy is manmade, just like slavery, genocide, and a host of other sins.
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harmony wrote:You know no such thing. You know nothing; you believe. There is no "know".


Correct, there is no such thing as knowing in life. I believe the world around me is as I sense it. I do not know it is such. Belief is the foundation of everything, that it is.

And there is nothing to "see" about polygamy. In order for one to believe polygamy is from God, one has to believe God is a respector of persons... that God loves his sons more than he loves his daughters.


Did you read what I said it was for? I wrote a piece to liz, a while ago, let me grab it for you.
The Lord comes up to you, after you have completed your life. You and your husband/wife are standing in your celestial glory, and the Lord, meek, and humble, comes walking in. He brings a women with him... he sits... and looks you and your spouse in the eye (you make decisions as one, not as separate beings at that point). He says, "I have a service I need you to perform." You and your spouse nod (for indeed, there is no addressing the one without addressing the other). He than continues. "Lisa here, she did all she was supposed to. She believed in me. She acted righteously. She is worthy of exaltation. But she is not." You and your spouse, both knowing what the Lord is going to say next, turn to each other, and than look back at the Lord. He says, "Yes, her husband was not faithful to her, and broke the covenants he made with her. That is why she is not exalted at this moment. Will you two perform a service for me?" (again, addressing both, there is no addressing one without the other). You and your spouse look into each other once more in the eyes, realizing what he is asking of you. And you know, that it is necessary for justice. And you know that she is missing out on what she truly deserves. You turn to the Lord, together, and say "Yes, I am ready."

That is the what the story should be.


The Lord God does not value his sons above his daughters - he wishes for all of them that have done what is necessary for exaltation to receive it. How is that possible if there are more spirit daughters than spirit sons that return to him? For he can see the end from the beginning; so has he planned.

Were God to do that, he would not be God.

Therefore... polygamy is manmade, just like slavery, genocide, and a host of other sins.


Have you not looked for why God instituted it... so that everyone who worked for it could have a celestial spouse?
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TAO wrote:That is the what the story should be.


And my answer is: God would not ask any of his daughters to perform that which he does ask his sons. So as soon as you find a scenario that has one of his daughters taking on extra sons, we can at least have a discussion. Until then... no.

The Lord God does not value his sons above his daughters - he wishes for all of them that have done what is necessary for exaltation to receive it. How is that possible if there are more spirit daughters than spirit sons that return to him? For he can see the end from the beginning; so has he planned.


No. Polygamy is not a part of exaltation. We know what is necessary, because Christ made it clear. That which contributed to Joseph's slide to hell has nothing to do with exaltation.

Have you not looked for why God instituted it... so that everyone who worked for it could have a celestial spouse?


God did not institute it; Joseph did, to cover his lust for women other than his wife.
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One quick thought on polygamy from a Nevermo.

I have one wife (a sweetie) and I find it difficult to get in the bathrooms now. Any more would constitute just about anyone's definition of Hell.
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Quasimodo wrote:One quick thought on polygamy from a Nevermo.

I have one wife (a sweetie) and I find it difficult to get in the bathrooms now. Any more would constitute just about anyone's definition of Hell.

As a polygamist, you would have two+ bathrooms and two+ beds and possibly even two+ kitchens. That is what I learned on the show Sister Wives. The only difference for you is that you keep a schedule of which bathroom/kitchen/bed you are supposed to use on any given day.
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zeezrom wrote:As a polygamist, you would have two+ bathrooms and two+ beds and possibly even two+ kitchens. That is what I learned on the show Sister Wives. The only difference for you is that you keep a schedule of which bathroom/kitchen/bed you are supposed to use on any given day.


Thanks, Z!

I'm seeing clearly now. If I buy an old motel cheap on a no-longer used section of route 66, I can install a new wife in each unit with it's own bathroom.

Monday, sleep in unit one. Tuesday, unit two, etc. Maybe skip unit six (never liked her anyway).

I can make them all run the diner and just sit back and relax. Where do I sign up?

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