Buffalo wrote:Since there is no such person, this claim is manifestly false.
Indeed...atheists do not hold the view that Christ is the LORD. I realize they don't recognize that He is the source of any hope and joy they may have. That is what I said.
love ya tons, stem
Love ya tons, Stem
I ain't nuttin'. don't get all worked up on account of me.
truth dancer wrote:For what do you think atheists have hope?
I'm not following you on this.
As far as I know, atheists do not have hope in an afterlife, or the believe that they can live with God, or that they get a reward for good behavior, or that there is something more ahead.
So how does Christ offer hope if one does not believe in Christ and does not hope for that which believers in Christ offer?
Again, for what do you think atheists have hope?
~td~
Many things. Hope that their kids will turn out well. Hope that they get a new job. Hope that they can have faith in the human spirit, not literal spirit entity of course. I'm sure atheists find hope in many things, and that they sometimes differ among each other about what is hope for.
love ya tons, stem
Love ya tons, Stem
I ain't nuttin'. don't get all worked up on account of me.
Buffalo wrote:Since there is no such person, this claim is manifestly false.
Indeed...atheists do not hold the view that Christ is the LORD. I realize they don't recognize that He is the source of any hope and joy they may have. That is what I said.
love ya tons, stem
Where does this person live? Do you have his address so that we can verify his existence?
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.
stemelbow wrote:Indeed...atheists do not hold the view that Christ is the LORD. I realize they don't recognize that He is the source of any hope and joy they may have. That is what I said.
love ya tons, stem
"Christ as Lord" is a Christian viewpoint, but that doesn't mean that atheists do not find the teachings of Jesus Christ, or Buddha, or others, of great value. I know that I do.
I just don't worship Jesus Christ as my "lord". I do recognize that the same inate and latent potential that was in Jesus Christ also lies within myself.
Jesus is my hope(as is any person who exemplifies the best of the human potential), but for a whole set of different reasons than the Christian who has externalized and diefied a human being and made him/her a God.
Tchild wrote:"Christ as Lord" is a Christian viewpoint, but that doesn't mean that atheists do not find the teachings of Jesus Christ, or Buddha, or others, of great value. I know that I do.
I just don't worship Jesus Christ as my "lord". I do recognize that the same inate and latent potential that was in Jesus Christ also lies within myself.
Jesus is my hope(as is any person who exemplifies the best of the human potential), but for a whole set of different reasons than the Christian who has externalized and diefied a human being and made him/her a God.
Thanks for the clarification concerning your personal views.
love ya tons, stem
Love ya tons, Stem
I ain't nuttin'. don't get all worked up on account of me.
Buffalo wrote:So, you don't have his address? Do you have his fingerprints? A photo? Swab of his saliva? How do you know he's real?
I might not be real, but then again no one is basing their whole lifestyle on the belief that I am. :)
How do you know I"m real? Why are you even responding to me considering you don't have my address, fingerprints, picture, saliva?
love ya tons, stem
Well, someone is posting. I can look at your posts and see that they're real. I doubt your name is Stem though. :)
I certainly wouldn't worship you based on that. And yet you don't even have that level of evidence for your deity. Aren't you afraid that you're being scammed?
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.
Buffalo wrote:Well, someone is posting. I can look at your posts and see that they're real. I doubt your name is Stem though. :)
I certainly wouldn't worship you based on that. And yet you don't even have that level of evidence for your deity. Aren't you afraid that you're being scammed?
oh so you have other reasons to support your faith that I am real? And you then conclude you knowledge? I think that settles it for ya.
love ya tons, stem
Love ya tons, Stem
I ain't nuttin'. don't get all worked up on account of me.