Unrighteous Feelings and Emotions

[_Jersey Girl]

I <3 my BFF

<3 u 2

:-)

[_Called2Swerve]

They are tools of the adversary because they deny the human being the joy that he or she deserves as spirit beings on a human journey. These two emotions can also lead to suicide.

We, humans need to be shocked and awed by life and all its beauty. The opposite is a tool of the devil.

These are feelings and emotions not controlled by an "adversary." These strong feelings are often more present in some people than others and to imply that to have various negative emotions is a result of being a bad person is not right. Not everyone will be shocked and awed by life, often because of what life has dealt them, and sometimes because of negative feelings in which they cannot control.

[_Hoops]

I <3 my BFF

Yep, she's a keeper!

[_cafe crema]

Do you ever stop being a dick?

....understanding someone's viewpoint.

You should try it sometime.

[_why me]

That's because JustMe is a sweetheart, and recognizes how hard it can be to give a talk.

Coming here to share feelings is what this place is about.

H.

And one can share feelings with the person who gave the talk. A conversations can go a long way. Silence can cause frustration.

[_why me]

These are feelings and emotions not controlled by an "adversary." These strong feelings are often more present in some people than others and to imply that to have various negative emotions is a result of being a bad person is not right. Not everyone will be shocked and awed by life, often because of what life has dealt them, and sometimes because of negative feelings in which they cannot control.

I would assume that many americans are experiencing hopelessness and dispair from the economy and their own economic situation. Not to mention the insecurity of the economic system that this system imposes on people and its stress on individualism and narcisism.

Hopelessness and dispair is not just a Mormon issue it is a life issue. America has become a prozac nation to control such negatives brought to us by the socioeconomic sytem of survival of the fittess. .

And both hopelessness and dispair can be overcome when a socioeconomic system brings out the positive in our human nature and we learn just what contributes to human wellbeing.

[_why me]

These are not tools of the adversary. These are signs of clinical depression you moron. Altered brain chemistry is not a tool, it's a fully treatable condition. The leading cause of suicide is not the "tools of the adversary". The leading cause of suicide is untreated depression.

Please shut the hell up.

Hello Sweetheart.

Have you been collecting Cape May diamonds recently? I just love to walk along the beach listening to the ocean waves. Have you been to ocean grove recently? I was there just a few weeks ago and I have always found the beach and town wonderful. Were you there? But be that as it may....

People can go through periods of hopelessness and dispair and it has nothing to do with clinical depressiion. These days, people talk pills as an end all cure. However, when one begins to observe just what is making people more dispairing and depressed one can see that it has much to do with the social environment around them and the affects of this social environment on the senses of the brain.

When one loses a job, a home, gets divorced, feel helpless to change the system, feels fear for becoming very sick etc, such negatives can appear rather frequently. Market driven capitalism brings out the devil in people and this devil affects the mind.

[_Rambo]

And the the message was given that we shouldn't feel those things...or give in to those feelings.

I believe that you heard this information in a talk by a lay member of the ward, right? If so, I wouldn't take it too seriously. We are entitled to our own opinions. However, what you should have done was approach the speaker with your questions. Nothing wrong in that. But most likely you were silent and came to the board to complain.

Haha why me let me just go on a rant because I see this crap from you all the time and it pisses me off and you can't get away with it anymore.

You are probably the biggest damned idiot I have ever read on this board. You down play things that happen in church and say that these things are not really taught in church and was given by some lay member.

Listen carefully most of us here have been members all of our lives. How long were you active in the church for? You don't even go to church. I bet I have heard way more church talks than you and I am probably way younger than you.

Everything just me said is a very typical church talk and it is taught all the time.

WHY ME, STOP thinking you know the Mormon church and you know what is taught because it is obvious to everyone here that you don't.

Your post made me so damned angry. But this reply made me feel good :)


Anyways Just Me, to add to this one of my friends asked on her Facebook status how do you forgive someone. All the church members just wrote stuff about how we have to forgive and it is a bigger sin if we don't forgive. I said you don't forgive you get even! haha But really if someone rapes you all someone you love I say “F” them. You don't need to forgive them at all and you get even with them!

I have this Mormon friend that said he never gets angry at anyone. I asked him if someone raped his daughter would he not get angry. He said nope he wouldn't because he thinks it's a bad emotion to have. I really think this is part of his Mormon up bringing and I don't think it is healthy way to live.

SERENITY NOW! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5513mXmQbw4

[_why me]

I am sure that just me went to stake conference hoping that someone would say something stupid so she could moan about it to her husband, friend and to this board. I have seen it before many times. Negativity is a catching virus when it comes to the lds church. Fault is found with the institution, with the members, with the leaders etc. Fault is found with what members say and do, especially with those teaching classes or giving talks.

There is nothing in this. However the positive talks and lessons are ignored. And this is what seems to be with just me.

Now I gave an explanation about the notion of dispair and hopelessness as a symptom of a market driven socioeconomic system which plays losers and winners within a creed of social darwinism. Such a system plants seeds of dispair in people and when times get tough, hopelessness. And this is why new age gurus and self help positive thinking books are a big business in capitalist societies.

Lets look at britain with the latest riots from people that were generally marginalized and pissed off. They acted out their hopelessness and dispair.

Personally I think that such emtions are normal. We all go through these periods of frustration, darkness, hopelessness and dispair. It is quite normal. And I believe that the speaker was refering to the normalacy of it all and how such thoughts needed to be controled before they became a normal part of life.

[_why me]

Everything just me said is a very typical church talk and it is taught all the time.

WHY ME, STOP thinking you know the Mormon church and you know what is taught because it is obvious to everyone here that you don't.

I was challenging just me's take on it. Nothing more. I have no problems with such talks as the one heard by just me. She had a problem with it. Thus, my disagreement with her. Now I would have hoped that the speaker would have given a critique to the socioeconomic system in the united states and how it plays on these emotions. But...that would have been too much to ask for.

And yes, I believe that free market social darwinistic capitalism is of the devil because it breeds hopelessness, dispair, greed, envy and hate.