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Rich Mormons like Mitt do far more for so called anti-Mormonism than even the so called anti-Mormons!

I wonder if Mitt will be asked by other candidates or the media if he himself has participated in necro dunking?

Thanks Mitt! How else would zingers like this see broad media coverage?

Kent Jackson, the associate dean of religion at Brigham Young University, says that while Mormons are Christians, “Mormonism is not part of the Christian family tree.”


Bushman said that “Mormons believe that Christ is the divine son of God who atoned for our sins, but we don’t believe in the Trinity in the sense that there are three in one. We believe the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost are three distinct persons.”
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Anne Frank, a Mormon?


I'm guessing she's accepted her baptism. It's certainly not forced on her or anyone else.
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bcspace wrote:
Anne Frank, a Mormon?


I'm guessing she's accepted her baptism. It's certainly not forced on her or anyone else.


That's right, you're guessing. Again.

If I recall correctly the Church got into some hot PR water over the practice of posthoumously baptising any holocaust victims that they could lay their geneologically hyper-active hands on. The Church then said they'd stop doing it, but didn't actually stop doing it. Cue more hot PR water.

Now the Church has changed it's policy of actively searching out databases of the dead from all over the globe. I guess that's why there is so much duplication of effort (check out how many times Joseph Smith and Jesus Christ have been re-baptised) and dwindling temple attendance.

Temple baptism's are a bit of a nonsense.
To believe in them you have to believe that on earth Mormonism has the wherewithal and capacity to posthoumously baptise everyone who ever lived on this planet as a non-Mormon.
Do the math.
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bcspace wrote:
I'm guessing she's accepted her baptism. It's certainly not forced on her or anyone else.


How come the "prophet" didn't warn Jews to get out while they still had time?

Oh, let me guess. Somehow it was not the Lord's will to save millions of innocent lives.

No doubt Anne Frank will be happy to worship such a God. You know, the God who's concerned enough about Joseph Smith's mating access to females that he sends an angel with the flaming sword to convey that message, and not concerned enough about the impending genocide to tell the prophet to warn Jews.
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Interesting stuff. One thing that is clear. The radical atheists like Mahar as as noisy and irrational about their view of Mormons ( and religion in general) as those of the Pastor Jeffers ilk.
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beastie wrote:
bcspace wrote:
I'm guessing she's accepted her baptism. It's certainly not forced on her or anyone else.


How come the "prophet" didn't warn Jews to get out while they still had time?

Oh, let me guess. Somehow it was not the Lord's will to save millions of innocent lives.

No doubt Anne Frank will be happy to worship such a God. You know, the God who's concerned enough about Joseph Smith's mating access to females that he sends an angel with the flaming sword to convey that message, and not concerned enough about the impending genocide to tell the prophet to warn Jews.


If Anne Frank is now having lunch with Heavenly Father and Joseph Smith, she will no doubt have asked them why the former did not send an angel with a flaming sword to Hitler to tell him to lay off the Jews.

No doubt she will have received a perfectly satisfactory answer. It would be irreverent to speculate what that answer might have been.
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I'm guessing she's accepted her baptism. It's certainly not forced on her or anyone else.

That's right, you're guessing. Again.


Only about whether or not she accepted the gospel in the afterlife. That's all anyone can do until we meet them.

If I recall correctly the Church got into some hot PR water over the practice of posthoumously baptising any holocaust victims that they could lay their geneologically hyper-active hands on. The Church then said they'd stop doing it, but didn't actually stop doing it. Cue more hot PR water.

Now the Church has changed it's policy of actively searching out databases of the dead from all over the globe. I guess that's why there is so much duplication of effort (check out how many times Joseph Smith and Jesus Christ have been re-baptised) and dwindling temple attendance.

Temple baptism's are a bit of a nonsense.
To believe in them you have to believe that on earth Mormonism has the wherewithal and capacity to posthoumously baptise everyone who ever lived on this planet as a non-Mormon.
Do the math.
bcspace wrote:
Anne Frank, a Mormon?


I'm guessing she's accepted her baptism. It's certainly not forced on her or anyone else.


That's right, you're guessing. Again.

If I recall correctly the Church got into some hot PR water over the practice of posthoumously baptising any holocaust victims that they could lay their geneologically hyper-active hands on.

The Church then said they'd stop doing it, but didn't actually stop doing it. Cue more hot PR water.

Now the Church has changed it's policy of actively searching out databases of the dead from all over the globe. I guess that's why there is so much duplication of effort (check out how many times Joseph Smith and Jesus Christ have been re-baptised) and dwindling temple attendance.

Temple baptism's are a bit of a nonsense.


Generallly incorrect but what has that got to do with Anne Frank becoming a Mormon?
To believe in them you have to believe that on earth Mormonism has the wherewithal and capacity to posthoumously baptise everyone who ever lived on this planet as a non-Mormon.
Do the math.
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By the way I was emailed the link to this article before I saw it here. The email came from someone who I highly respect and is a very brilliant man and at the lead of his profession in our community. He is Jewish by heritage but does not practice. He is also politically more liberal. He and I have spent hundred of hours talking about many things and among them have been many religious topics, Mormonism included. Here is what he said when he sent me the link:

Yikes! I do think Romney has flipped flopped on some issues like abortion but who among the current candidates hasn't flip flopped on something (with exception of Ron Paul)? The commentary on Later Day Saints seems way over the top though. I'm so sorry Mormons still have to deal with this sort of thing. He certainly is a strong candidate with an admirable track record as governor and in business. I hope people vote for or against him based on his platform and record only. I like to think we are all becoming more enlightened but I fear I am a bit naïve at times.


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I'm guessing she's accepted her baptism. It's certainly not forced on her or anyone else.

How come the "prophet" didn't warn Jews to get out while they still had time?


Two reasons at least. Agency and Matthew 20:28
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