The Maxwell Institute and High-Pressure Sales Tactics

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The Maxwell Institute and High-Pressure Sales Tactics

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I recently came across an interesting tidbit that helps shed further light on the way that the Maxwell Institute operates:

http://www.ldsphilanthropies.org/BYU/fu ... itute.html

In the past, we've discussed a variety of things having to do with the ways that money is handled within the ziggurat-like bowels of the MI, but I was surprised to see how nakedly so many things were admitted on this "fundraising" Web page. Here is a small sampling of key items:

Why It Is a Priority [i.e., to donate beaucoup $$$ to the M.I.]

The Neal A. Maxwell Institute for Religious Scholarship is blessing lives in profound ways: making friends for the university and Church worldwide, providing educational tools and resources for scholars and laypersons alike, and defending faith in a disintegrating world.


As you can imagine, I was aghast as I read this. "[M]aking friends for the university and the Church worldwide"? What is this nonsense? Have the "fundraisers" actually been reading the material that FARMS puts out? How are Midgley's numerous assaults on Evangelical critics supposed to be understood as a gesture of "friendship"? If anything, the flagship publication of the M.I. has been one gesture of hostility after the next.

Even more significant is this bit about "disintegrating world." In fact, I would go so far as to say that this is one of the most revelatory and deeply explanatory things that has ever been said about the Mopologists.

Of course, pretty much everyone has been led to believe that millennialism has been banished from the Church--both in terms of doctrine and folk beliefs, and yet here we can see that professional, well-funded apologetics is actually being peddled on the basis of scare tactics. A "disintegrating world"? What is that supposed to mean, exactly? And how are the publications of Gee, Midgley, Hamblin, Roper, and etc. supposed to protect us from said "disintegration"?

The other portion of this Web-vertisement that I found interesting was this:

As a part of BYU, the Maxwell Institute builds bridges to other cultures and peoples by contributing to scholarship in many disciplines and establishing contacts with scholars at universities and centers of learning worldwide.


Wow! Quite an admission! I understand this to be a not-so-carefully veiled statement that donors' funds will be used to help pay for the apologists' cushy globe-trotting. "Establishing contacts...worldwide"? One can envision Ed Snow rubbing his palms together Rasputinishly as he helps to plot out the 5-course dinners that Bill Hamblin will shovel into his craw after he's finished up a hard days' work of taping YouTube episodes for his "Hamblin in Israel" series and cracking jocular, wiseacre jokes about his "Metcalfe is Butthead" acrostic. This seems money well spent, eh? The logic here seems to be that donors must finance the jet-set exploits of the M.I. Mopologists in order to stave off the terrors of a "disintegrating" society.

In any event, I must say that the whole pitch struck me as problematic on a number of levels. I'll go ahead and admit that I experienced a very dark feeling as I read it.
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What about the world is 'disintegrating'? (I mean, apart from its financial markets.)

The disintegration of society has been the religious fear-mongerer's cry dating back to well before the 1830s-40s Restoration. So what accounts for the society that is supposedly falling apart? Catholicism? Do Mormons that claim the world is disintegrating blame it on the Enlightenment?

Why has the restoration of the one true church to the earth not, now 181 years in, curbed this disintegration, turned the corner and led society back to its once glorious state?
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And how are the publications of Gee, Midgley, Hamblin, Roper, and etc. supposed to protect us from said "disintegration"?


I couldn't believe this either, it's a very strong claim. The other day I got solicitation from the local humane society in the mail. In contrast to the MI here, this solicitation was very specific about what precisely a donation of say 50$ will do for one dog or one cat. I'm going to have to give something, for sure. At any rate, the expectations set were pretty specific and reasonable.

On the other hand, I'm having a hard time seeing how the Review will make any headway against the "disintegration" of the entire world. Bear in mind that this publication historically has set its sites on Chapel Mormons and the works of EVs. While the apologists might not agree with Chapel Mormons and EV's who criticize LDS beliefs, both groups maintain their positions as matters of faith.

Well, they may have meant that preserving old documents generally is somehow holding the fabric of society together. I'll admit this is a perfectly fine contribution to the world, but the effects of the efforts a little exaggerated. Some people collect old Beatles albums and some collect Star Wars action figures, they too do their part in preserving a slice of history. Not sure any of this will keep the world from disintegrating, if that is what indeed is happening.
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Gadianton wrote:
And how are the publications of Gee, Midgley, Hamblin, Roper, and etc. supposed to protect us from said "disintegration"?


I couldn't believe this either, it's a very strong claim.


Indeed it is. And given the fact that it's right there on BYU's own Web site, they cannot back away from it--they have to endorse this as being the official stance of the Maxwell Institute. I.e., they legitimately believe that their smear pieces and character assassinations are helping to prevent the world from disintegrating. This has the potential to open up whole, entire new avenues of study in the field of Mopologetics Research. For example: do they try to quantify their "prevention" efforts? E.g., does Midgley's verbal assault on Sandra Tanner carry more weight than, say, Gee's "Abracadabra" article?
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Gadianton wrote:
And how are the publications of Gee, Midgley, Hamblin, Roper, and etc. supposed to protect us from said "disintegration"?


I couldn't believe this either, it's a very strong claim.


Doctor Scratch wrote:Indeed it is. And given the fact that it's right there on BYU's own Web site, they cannot back away from it--they have to endorse this as being the official stance of the Maxwell Institute. I.e., they legitimately believe that their smear pieces and character assassinations are helping to prevent the world from disintegrating. This has the potential to open up whole, entire new avenues of study in the field of Mopologetics Research. For example: do they try to quantify their "prevention" efforts? E.g., does Midgley's verbal assault on Sandra Tanner carry more weight than, say, Gee's "Abracadabra" article?

Maybe DCP figures this is his turn at being a 'savior' of a world before he can be a full-fledged god in his own right in the hereafter.

Funny, it's not revelation from God that is going to be a beacon call to humanity to save it from disintegration, but Midgley and DCP creating room for "plausibility" against mountains of evidence to the contrary.
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I thought you retired?
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Scottie wrote:I thought you retired?


I thought the Terrestrial did not admit of snarky personal drive-by's and derailments.
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Blixa wrote:
Scottie wrote:I thought you retired?


I thought the Terrestrial did not admit of snarky personal drive-by's and derailments.


Lol...

That said, i have had a bit of an "insiders view" to the fundraising efforts of the MI...truly sad and disgusting as these guys use the LDS church (many people can't really tell the difference between the MI and the LDS church) to whore themselves out in whatever way they can to raise money...pretty gross
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Scottie wrote:I thought you retired?

I, for one, am very happy to see that the Good Doctor remains vigilant and engaged in Mopologetic research. Dr. Scratch has proven, throughout his long board career in this area, that he is a real leader in the battle to save the world from the magical thinking of Mormonism.
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Scottie wrote:I thought you retired?

I thought I quit posting on MDB the end of June?
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