Upon which arm of flesh do you rely?

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I will not put my trust in the arm of flesh; for I know that cursed is he that putteth his trust in the arm of flesh. Yea, cursed is he that putteth his trust in man or maketh flesh his arm.

man should not counsel his fellow man, neither trust in the arm of flesh but that every man might speak in the name of God the Lord, even the Savior of the world

Cursed is he that putteth his trust in man, or maketh flesh his arm, or shall hearken unto the precepts of men, save their precepts shall be given by the power of the Holy Ghost.

Now the Lord had shown unto me, Abraham, the intelligences that were organized before the world was; and among all these there were many of the noble and great ones;

And God saw these souls that they were good, and he stood in the midst of them, ...

Since men of letters and science can explain the information that they present for your consideration, but those men of the Holy Ghost cannot or refuse to explain it in more detail than a thought just entered my mind while studying or I had a warm, peaceful feeling, it seems the real confounding of language seems to be of men that ask you to trust in the flesh of their arms but will not or cannot explain why.

Do you trust the arm of flesh that goes unexplainable, or your own reasoning from your own intellect--i.e., the soul that God organized you as an intelligence--in evaluating the information that men of science and letters propose?

Do you use your soul--your organized intellect--to evaluate proposed information or do you prefer to rely on the mystery of the unexplained, not using the intellect that God organized you to be?

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I believe God created us with a brain that is capable of investigating, questioning, challenging, studying, learning, rationalising, thinking etc.

Sadly, to believe in Mormonism these brain functions need to remain redundant. I don't think God would bless us with abilities that we weren't supposed to utilise.

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I believe God created us with a brain that is capable of investigating, questioning, challenging, studying, learning, rationalising, thinking etc.

Sadly, to believe in Mormonism these brain functions need to remain redundant. I don't think God would bless us with abilities that we weren't supposed to utilise.

Are you saying our brains and intellects are as useless for being Mormon followers as our appendix are for our bodily organism to function in our environment?

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I believe God created us with a brain that is capable of investigating, questioning, challenging, studying, learning, rationalising, thinking etc.

Sadly, to believe in Mormonism these brain functions need to remain redundant. I don't think God would bless us with abilities that we weren't supposed to utilise.

Are you saying our brains and intellects are as useless for being Mormon followers as our appendix are for our bodily organism to function in our environment?

Within Mormonism your brain and your appendix have equal standing...

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Here, Willy Law made an interesting comment in response to ldsfaqs about the archeological evidence, vel non, for the historicity of the Book of Mormon.

I would stop short of saying you lied. I used to do the same thing as a believer. I remember swearing to a friend that South and Central America are littered with Mayan ruins proving the Book of Mormon was true. I like to think I was not lying, I just trusted the wrong people.

Are believers trusting the right people, those at the COB? Keep in mind, Gerald and Sandra Tanner had the power of discernment much more strongly about Mark Hoffman forging fraudulent documents about early Mormon history than did SWK (prophet), NET, MGR (rounding out the FP at the time), and GBH (then of the 12).

Are believers trusting the wrong people, the wrong arms of flesh?