Mormonism not Christian...

[_Drifting]

...according to softball league in Mercer County...

MERCER COUNTY, Pa. — Members of one church were told they weren't allowed to participate in a Mercer County softball league because of their beliefs.
Players from Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints church in Slippery Rock said they were told they couldn't participate in the Grove City Area Church softball league because they're Mormon.
The Grove City Area Church league is made up of 11 teams. Players said when they received word that Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints may participate, three of the teams refused to play if they were accepted.
The president of the league released a statement saying, "The GCA church softball league is intended for fellowship among Christian churches. Not for members of different faiths. To call a group who proclaims a different gospel of salvation of Christian church is not only untrue, it is unloving. We cannot do this. We will not do this."
League officials took a vote and refused to allow the team into the league. The league's president said members of the church are still welcome to play in the league, just not as a team.

[_3sheets2thewind]

so rather than keep the wolves as a pack which makes the wolves easier to identify, according to the "christians" the wiser course is for the wolves to be placed in sheeps clothing and permitted among the flock.......

[_Sophocles]

Hate the team, love the player.

[_Rambo]

I was thinking about this today actually.

Mormons believe in the historical Jesus that came to earth and died so they might be saved. They believe in the same mortal Jesus as christians believe.

Mormons do not believe in the same immortal Jesus though. The Mormon Jesus is a serperate being from god so he is not the same immortal Jesus that Christains believe in.

My mom was saying the other day that she loved how president bush would always say god bless america. Next time I'll ask her why does she like that because she doesn't believe in the same god GW believes in. Why would my mom want a different god than her definition to bless america.

I think Mormons can call themselves christains but with the disclaimer that they believe in a different immortal Jesus.

Anyways does it really matter?

[_bcspace]

Not a problem. It's their Church. They can do whatever they want. The Marmons will just have to up and create their own team and challenge the GCA cowards to a tournament.

I also notice that:

League officials took a vote and refused to allow the team into the league. The league's president said members of the church are still welcome to play in the league, just not as a team.

http://www.wpxi.com/news/news/local/mormon-softball-team-banned-mercer-county-christia/nPDBh/

Anyways does it really matter?

It does if one believes God is not a liar and a respecter of persons.

But it also depends contextually on what one is talking about as to whether or not we believe in the same Jesus. We do in the sense that we are talking about the same Being. We don't in the sense that the doctrines are quite different in critical aspects. As for the mortal-immortal dichotomy presented above, that may not work either because we LDS do not accept the trinitarian "mystical union". Our mortal Jesus came to earth as a homo sapiens God who condescended to come down here. Trinitarian mortal Jesus is essentially a piece or a reflection of the mysterious God detached and sent to earth.

[_KevinSim]

I think Mormons can call themselves christains but with the disclaimer that they believe in a different immortal Jesus.

I've never understood the assertions by some groups that Mormons aren't Christian. They seem to think that for some reason I haven't been able to figure out, those groups are entitled to decide who is Christian and who is not. Why should anyone believe they are entitled to do that?

[_Aristotle Smith]

I think Mormons can call themselves christains but with the disclaimer that they believe in a different immortal Jesus.

I've never understood the assertions by some groups that Mormons aren't Christian. They seem to think that for some reason I haven't been able to figure out, those groups are entitled to decide who is Christian and who is not. Why should anyone believe they are entitled to do that?

It really isn't any different than the Salt Lake Monsonite LDS church deciding who gets to be called "Mormon."

[_thews]

I was thinking about this today actually.

Mormons believe in the historical Jesus that came to earth and died so they might be saved. They believe in the same mortal Jesus as christians believe.

You mean the Jesus that lives on Kolob... the brother of Satan?

Mormons do not believe in the same immortal Jesus though. The Mormon Jesus is a serperate being from god so he is not the same immortal Jesus that Christains believe in.

The similarities in the Mormon version of Jesus Christ and the Christian version aren't even remotely close.

My mom was saying the other day that she loved how president bush would always say god bless america. Next time I'll ask her why does she like that because she doesn't believe in the same god GW believes in. Why would my mom want a different god than her definition to bless america.

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I think Mormons can call themselves christains but with the disclaimer that they believe in a different immortal Jesus.

"Mormons" believe in the doctrine of Joseph Smith. "Christians" rejects Joseph Smith as a false prophet of and all of Mormon doctrine as that of a false prophet of God. The two religions have a completely different theology, and to claim they are the same from a Mormon perspective is to buy into the LDS arrogance that they are the "true" Christians.

Anyways does it really matter?

Yes. It matters more than you lackadaisically acknowledge. Mormons want to be known as "Christian" to include the "new Testament of Jesus Christ" as a "Christian" theology, when it's not. There isn't one single doctrine shared between the Christian faith and the Mormon faith... not one. Your argument could label Jews as "Christian" because they accept the old testament.

Bravo for this stand on what is not Christian, as Mormonism is not Christian in any way, shape, or form.

[_thews]

I think Mormons can call themselves christains but with the disclaimer that they believe in a different immortal Jesus.

I've never understood the assertions by some groups that Mormons aren't Christian. They seem to think that for some reason I haven't been able to figure out, those groups are entitled to decide who is Christian and who is not. Why should anyone believe they are entitled to do that?

"Christian" theology rejects Joseph Smith as a false prophet of God, and all of the doctrine of Joseph Smith as from a false prophet. The revised Bible (JST) that Joseph Smith corrected isn't even acknowledge by the likes of those that claim the "official" Bible is the KJV. Why? Why not buy into the JST if you're LDS that includes the after-the-fact "prophecy" of Joseph introducing himself as the son of Joseph....

http://www.christian-restoration.com/cu ... Mormon.htm

In his own translation of the King James version of the Bible, he wrote himself into the book of Genesis. 'And that seer will I bless...and his name shall be called Joseph, and it shall be after the name of his father..' Genesis 50:53 Joseph Smith translation

[_madeleine]

Mormonism is not a Christian religion; not even worshipping the same God as Christians. It is founded on the belief that Christianity is false. So I haven't understood why Christians saying Mormons are not Christians is something for Mormons to be offended at.