Are DR. Peterson and his followers guilty of pride?

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_Home Teacher
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Are DR. Peterson and his followers guilty of pride?

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With the recent events at the Maxwell Institute, I notice a lot of anger directed at those leaders who were responsible for this decision. It saddens me that Dr. Peterson and his friends have allowed themselves to be offended. I would remind those who have taken offense at their appointed leaders of President Ezra Taft Benson's famous talk on pride. I challenge Dr. Peterson and his followers to read this talk, and prayerfully study it, and humble themselves into sustaining those in authority over them. Adversity is the tool of Satan. I quoted excepts that I think apply to this situation.

http://education.BYU.edu/edlf/archives/prophets/bewareofpride.html

Another major portion of this very prevalent sin of pride is enmity toward our fellowmen. We are tempted daily to elevate ourselves above others and diminish them.

The proud make every man their adversary by pitting their intellects, opinions, works, wealth, talents, or any other worldly measuring device against others.


Selfishness is one of the more common faces of pride. “How everything affects me” is the center of all that matters—self-conceit, self-pity, worldly self-fulfillment, self-gratification, and self-seeking.


Disobedience is essentially a prideful power struggle against someone in authority over us.


Selfishness is one of the more common faces of pride. “How everything affects me” is the center of all that matters—self-conceit, self-pity, worldly self-fulfillment, self-gratification, and self-seeking.


The proud do not receive counsel or correction easily. (See Prov. 15:10; Amos 5:10.) Defensiveness is used by them to justify and rationalize their frailties and failures.


We can choose to humble ourselves by receiving counsel and chastisement.


We can choose to humble ourselves by forgiving those who have offended us.


We can choose to humble ourselves by getting to the temple more frequently.


Let us choose to be humble. We can do it. I know we can.
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We're all guilty of pride in our own way. I'm working on mine, and I don't care about anyone else's.
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Bob Loblaw wrote:We're all guilty of pride in our own way. I'm working on mine, and I don't care about anyone else's.


I'm grateful that I'm truly the most humble person here on the board.
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Drifting wrote:I'm grateful that I'm truly the most humble person here on the board.


No one here is as modest as I am. Humility is one of my major strengths.
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The very fact of how you phrase the thread title ("Dr. Peterson and 'his followers'") indicates to me that this is a clear-cut case of priestcraft. Peterson is the modern day equivalent of the people in the Book of Mormon who gathered about them "followers" to oppose the church.
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Garbo wrote:The very fact of how you phrase the thread title ("Dr. Peterson and 'his followers'") indicates to me that this is a clear-cut case of priestcraft. Peterson is the modern day equivalent of the people in the Book of Mormon who gathered about them "followers" to oppose the church.

That's right. The apologists' plight is straight out of the Book of Mormon. The story of Alma, priest in the land of Nephi-Lehi, comes readily to mind.

First, Abinadi told the public that their leaders were doing it all wrong, and was banned from the city. Then, later, he came back as a sock puppet, but immediately made a tactical error (by referring to himself as "Abinadi" in the first sentence of his stealth sermon) and was discovered by the leaders and terminated, but not before he was able to confound them in all their words and deliver a wonderful speech about the way things ought to be. Upon hearing the persuasive words of Abinadi, Alma felt compelled to oppose his fellow priests and take a splinter group to the waters of Mormon for baptism.

That's clearly what is happening now.

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but immediately made a tactical error (by referring to himself as "Abinadi" in the first sentence of his stealth sermon)


Lmao. I never noticed that before. What a howler.
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Equality wrote:Lmao. I never noticed that before. What a howler.


I had forgotten about that one. :lol:
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Bob Loblaw wrote:
Equality wrote:Lmao. I never noticed that before. What a howler.


I had forgotten about that one. :lol:


I don't get why people think the Book of Mormon is boring. It is side splitting fun if you read it as a parody of religious texts, much like Blazing Saddles is to Westerns.
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DarkHelmet wrote:I don't get why people think the Book of Mormon is boring. It is side splitting fun if you read it as a parody of religious texts, much like Blazing Saddles is to Westerns.


For it to be good parody, it would need to be well-written. The crappy writing is what makes it boring. Some of the stories might be interesting if they weren't drowned in a Droopy-esque sea of verbosity and a bad attempt to ape Jacobean English.
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