Example of how liberals don't think, have boogeymen fantasy

[_ldsfaqs]

Story of Citizens United v. FEC, The Critique

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJEeKez1Jlw

Liberals, anti-mormons, all in the same intellectual moral pod.
So blatantly clear, fact after fact debunking the Story of Stuff video, a common liberal lie, that "corporations" are this ugly boogeyman that should be stopped.

But will liberals change their minds and learn? Nope. The propaganda and lie is more satisfying to them.

[_beastie]

Hi, Lee.

Do you or members of your family still receive government assistance?

[_ldsfaqs]

Hi, Lee.

Do you or members of your family still receive government assistance?

And are you going to ever tell the truth about conservative ideology and conservatives?
I and we are NOT "against" government assistance. We simply believe there are better ways to do it, and also handle the various issues related to it.

[_beastie]

Hi, Lee.

Do you or members of your family still receive government assistance?

And are you going to ever tell the truth about conservative ideology and conservatives?
I and we are NOT "against" government assistance. We simply believe there are better ways to do it, and also handle the various issues related to it.

Thank you for answering my question indirectly.

So what is the better way that the government could do it for your family, and handle your issues?

[_ldsfaqs]

Why don't we stick to the subject matter instead of my personal life?

[_beastie]

Why don't we stick to the subject matter instead of my personal life?

Your personal life is pertinent. Your family receives government assistance. I would guess, given your history of joblessness, and, according to your website, some significant health issues in one of your children (which I hope has gotten better), your children probably receive food stamps and medicaid. You say that conservatives are not against assistance in general, you just have better ideas on how to run it. Tell us what those better ideas are, and how it would have improved your family's situation, as compared to the assistance you have received in the past and receive now.

Paul Ryan's budget would entail drastic cuts to medicaid.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezr ... -medicare/

aul Ryan’s Medicare overhaul may be the most controversial part of his budget.But the proposed cuts to the program are not the biggest cuts in the plan.
As Ezra notes, Ryan’s cuts to Medicare “are only 60 percent as large as the cuts to Medicaid and other health-care programs.” What’s more, his biggest change to Medicare wouldn’t kick in until 2023—the start date for his voucher-based premium support program. By comparison, Ryan’s cuts to Medicaid are more drastic, and they start sooner: Between 2013 and 2022, it would make nearly $1.4 trillion in cuts to Medicaid that “would almost inevitably result in dramatic reductions in coverage” as well as enrollment, according to the non-partisan Kaiser Family Foundation.

Over the next 10 years, the Ryan plan would cut Medicaid by $642 billion by repealing the Affordable Care Act and by $750 billion through new caps on federal spending—a 34 percent cut to Medicaid spending over the next decade, according to Edwin Park of the Center and Budget and Policy Priorities.

How would this improve your family's situation? Would it encourage you to work more? Harder? Is that the impetus someone like you needs? Is that why conservative ideas are better? Has the current assistance simply made you dependent on aid, and less motivated to support your family without assistance?

Please explain how this works. It's important to hear from the people it affects the most.

[_beastie]

You know what I think, lee? I think you have no idea how republican ideas would affect you in your life. And that is the real liberal bogeyman - people like you who have somehow been persuaded that the principles of the republican party will somehow benefit your life, yet without any solid justification for that belief.

[_ldsfaqs]

Feel free to believe whatever bigotry makes you feel good at night.....

I simply don't have time to get into a discussion about health care all the ideas, nuances, details etc., to collect, collate and regurgitate every little thing I've learned in a LIFETIME of observation and learning on the subject.

There is simply not enough time to reply to all you people with everything I would like to say.
I know how you will take it, you will take it just like you've just said, believing your fantasy bigotry over the person for his lack of response. And you can just sit there, not having to do a DANG thing...... while expecting the rest of us to prepare a proper thesis that you will just mock anyway.

Sorry, I have bigger problems right now than entertaining you with important things that are low on my priority list right now.

If you want to know conservative thought, ideas, plans on how to fix health care and otherwise, do YOUR OWN RESEARCH for a change. But I know you won't because you prefer mocking people from a distance instead, without having to use your brain and morality. There are MANY smart conservatives out there. Since it's so important to you to know my thoughts, study them. I believe the same. Have you even watched Romney's Health Care presentation at that college?

You mock things you don't even take time to understand to see which side is really sensible.

[_EAllusion]

If the Ryan budget in the incarnation that passed congress as a symbolic gesture were actually to be passed, you'd be screwed Lee. I find it noble when someone votes against their personal interest because they think it is the right thing to do, but that should be kept distinct from the fact that you would indeed be screwed. MA would take a massive hit and one of the first areas of assistance that would go down would be people in situations you've described yourself in.

[_EAllusion]

I'm all in favor of the Citizens United ruling - the ACLU brief mirrors my view on the subject - , but the video in the OP seems to not really get that political advertizing is effective for manipulating public opinion. It's why there is so much money behind it. The video talks like it's some sort of implausible voodoo that money can be used to get people to vote in ways they otherwise would not.