My Weekly Russell: 2) Prophet Commands Russell to Violate Doctor-Patient Confidentiality

[Res Ipsa]

I’m taking what Nelson says at 100% value. He was ordered by the president of the church to violate doctor patient confidentiality. And he did, when he easily could have sought the patient’s permission. For the President to order him to do so displays incredible disdain for obligations that professionals — doctors, lawyers, clergy — promise their patients, clients, or congregants. For Nelson to break that obligation is inexcusable, especially when could easily have sought permission.

I have never worried about divided loyalty of LDS politicians, but this gives me concern. If LDS leaders take professional oaths this lightly, why in the world would I trust them to take their oaths to the Constitution seriously?

You weren’t there and are not privy to all that was going on/transpired. Yet you make a snap judgement based on what may be incomplete information and then use your new found premise to judge LDS politicians.

Bit of a stretch all the way around

Regards,
MG

I used your current prophet’s own words. He was there. You weren’t. I think I’m entitled to rely on his eye witness account.

[MG 2.0]

You weren’t there and are not privy to all that was going on/transpired. Yet you make a snap judgement based on what may be incomplete information and then use your new found premise to judge LDS politicians.

Bit of a stretch all the way around

Regards,
MG

I used your current prophet’s own words. He was there. You weren’t. I think I’m entitled to rely on his eye witness account.

Yeah, but if I’m right then you’re making stuff up and putting unwarranted accusations out there. And you’ll find a ready made audience to slap you on the back rather than give you a knock on your head.

If you’re OK with that then so be it.

Regards,
MG

[drumdude]

The church routinely uses the term “church-broke” to refer to political assets they can depend on to do their bidding.

Former Sen. Gordon Smith, an Oregon Republican and Mormon, spelled out where faith falls on his list during a 2009 meeting with high-level LDS Church authorities in which he said he viewed his "temple recommend as more important than an election certificate" and lamented that his religious leaders didn't call on him more often for help.

It’s not surprising that Rusty would put his loyalty to the church above loyalty to patient client confidentiality. I wouldn’t trust an LDS politician, lawyer, doctor, or any other professional to put their duty to their professional ethics above the church.

[Res Ipsa]

I used your current prophet’s own words. He was there. You weren’t. I think I’m entitled to rely on his eye witness account.

Yeah, but if I’m right then you’re making stuff up and putting unwarranted accusations out there. And you’ll find a ready made audience to slap you on the back rather than give you a knock on your head.

If you’re OK with that then so be it.

Regards,
MG

Right about what? It’s a very simple, clear story. I’m not relying on some biased, anti-Mormon source. It’s from your current prophet’s autobiography. It’s the entire story he told. I’m just doing the same thing that do every day — engage in reasoning based on evidence. You’ve done it for decades. Except when the evidence shows your church in a negative light. Then, you claim we can’t possibly draw conclusions from evidence because it’s possible there’s something that we don’t know. Even though there’s no reason to believe other relevance exists. I mean, how do you dress yourself every day, knowing that there might be some unknown facts out there that show that the shirt you want to wear isn’t actually a thong?

If you’ve got evidence that the past prophet Lee didn’t direct your current prophet Nelson to violate his promise of confidentiality and that Nelson obeyed, only calling his patient after violating his obligation, then put up or shut up.

[Dr Exiled]

The church routinely uses the term “church-broke” to refer to political assets they can depend on to do their bidding.

Former Sen. Gordon Smith, an Oregon Republican and Mormon, spelled out where faith falls on his list during a 2009 meeting with high-level LDS Church authorities in which he said he viewed his "temple recommend as more important than an election certificate" and lamented that his religious leaders didn't call on him more often for help.

It’s not surprising that Rusty would put his loyalty to the church above loyalty to patient client confidentiality. I wouldn’t trust an LDS politician, lawyer, doctor, or any other professional to put their duty to their professional ethics above the church.

Loyalty to the higher church authority over the individual, regardless if the individual is the president of the Q12, might be the lesson suck-up nelson is trying to teach here?

National Socialism is not that bad, so said suck-up nelson in an unguarded moment.

[Dwight]

Weird to see it with a bunch of adults. Though the church hierarchy could make it seem okay. I know my mission president had no problem talking with a doctor who was a bishop about a missionary’s health. Indeed the mission president heard first the diagnosis the doctor was zeroing in on and what it would mean for that missionary to stay out or be sent home.

[Moksha]

How did Elder Oaks even come to know about draft legislation that was “protected” from public access?

Surveillance from the network of return and report Congressional aides.

[kairos]

While the blessing story may not be true, it seem nelson still wasted a lot of time before surgery, so much that sister kimball ended up with an abcess caused by a leaking appendix to create a long term recovery on antibotics- had nelson gotten that appendix out faster it may have been fully in tact and sister kimball would have been up and around in days not months- something to ponder!

just musin
k