Criticizing the person or their ideas/actions

[_zeezrom]

Who gets treated with less respect as a fellow human being at MDB:

Dan Peterson
John Dehlin

?

Can we separate their Mormon community service from who they are as people? When criticized, do we criticize their philosophies, logic, ideals, acts, etc. rather than themselves as people?

[_Kishkumen]

I show Daniel Peterson far less respect than John Dehlin. I think most people here are the same.

People around here are disappointed in John. A few don't like him. Some do. Some are somewhere in between.

Peterson is a much more polarizing figure.

[_Chap]

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Peterson is a much more polarizing figure.

And that is, apparently, just the way he likes it.

[_Kishkumen]

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Peterson is a much more polarizing figure.

And that is, apparently, just the way he likes it.

Most certainly.

[_DrW]

I show Daniel Peterson far less respect than John Dehlin. I think most people here are the same.

People around here are disappointed in John. A few don't like him. Some do. Some are somewhere in between.

Peterson is a much more polarizing figure.

Reverend,

Your choice of words in describing DCP shows admirable restraint - the same kind of restraint I will now demonstrate by not commenting further on the subject of DCP.

As described on another thread, I have a lot of respect for John Dehlin. I think he is personable, articulate, bright and even courageous at times- although perhaps a little confused right now.

[Guest]

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[_moksha]

They are both children of God and therefore worthy of dignity and respect. We may disagree with the ideas of others, but we should let it go at that.

The scent of Dr. Peterson is just as enticing as that of Dr. Scratch, provided they both have access to a shower and lavender soap.

[_Ceeboo]

Hey Zee!

Who gets treated with less respect as a fellow human being at MDB:

Dan Peterson
John Dehlin

?

At MDB - DCP gets treated with less respect.
At MDDB - John Dehlin gets treated with less respect.

Location - location - location.

The ears/eyes of the collective community that make up the audience/enviornment play as much a role (in many cases the sole influential role) as does the the role of what is said/written by the speaker/author.

Who said/wrote it has enormous impact and often trumps the content of what is said/wrote.

Can we separate their Mormon community service from who they are as people?

I would suggest that it is at least possible that you have it backwards.

Who they are as people (their personal beliefs, contributions, actions, and stances they take) is how we measure, determine, and/or place our personal value on what we believe is, or is not, a "service" to any community of people......Mormonism being a mere one of many.

When criticized, do we criticize their philosophies, logic, ideals, acts, etc. rather than themselves as people?

When you take the position to criticize, judge, and/or evaluate, it is alomost impossible (perhaps completely impossible?) to separate the two.......in my opinion!

Peace,
Ceeboo

[_Yoda]

I concur with Ceeboo that Dan gets more respect at MDDB and John gets more respect here at MDB.

I respect both men. Both Dan and John have been positive influences on my life in different ways.

[_zeezrom]

DCP reached out to me while I began to question Mormonism. John Dehlin never did that. DCP was also a little snooty to me at MAD, but maybe it was to be expected since I was asking why Joseph Smith hurt Lucy Walker and other girls.

This is the extent of my interaction with these two brethren. John Dehlin remains a sort of distant icon, who I know would never talk to me because he is a rock star. DCP is more interactive on a personal level but does so in a slightly demeaning manner.

My feelings.