Richard Nixon was...complicated. Very smart, awkward, paranoid. I wonder what kind of President he would have made had he the easy manner of FDR? There was always a bit of Sammy Glick about Nixon.
Evidently Nixon sabatoged Lyndon Johnson's peace talk efforts in order to get elected. I had heard this before, but never with this amount of detail to back if up:
At a July meeting in Nixon's New York apartment, the South Vietnamese ambassador was told Chennault represented Nixon and spoke for the campaign. If any message needed to be passed to the South Vietnamese president, Nguyen Van Thieu, it would come via Chennault.
In late October 1968 there were major concessions from Hanoi which promised to allow meaningful talks to get underway in Paris - concessions that would justify Johnson calling for a complete bombing halt of North Vietnam. This was exactly what Nixon feared. The US delegation, left, and North Vietnamese delegation at Paris peace talks The Paris peace talks may have ended years earlier, if it had not been for Nixon's subterfuge
Chennault was despatched to the South Vietnamese embassy with a clear message: the South Vietnamese government should withdraw from the talks, refuse to deal with Johnson, and if Nixon was elected, they would get a much better deal.
So on the eve of his planned announcement of a halt to the bombing, Johnson learned the South Vietnamese were pulling out.
He was also told why. The FBI had bugged the ambassador's phone and a transcripts of Anna Chennault's calls were sent to the White House. In one conversation she tells the ambassador to "just hang on through election".
Johnson was told by Defence Secretary Clifford that the interference was illegal and threatened the chance for peace.
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More evidence that many of our leaders view our soldiers as nothing more than disposable pawns.
It reminds me of the rumor that Reagan's campaign was working behind the scenes to make sure the Iranian hostages weren't released before the election. I'm not sure if that's ever been proven, though.
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beastie wrote:More evidence that many of our leaders view our soldiers as nothing more than disposable pawns.
It reminds me of the rumor that Reagan's campaign was working behind the scenes to make sure the Iranian hostages weren't released before the election. I'm not sure if that's ever been proven, though.
It has Never been proven true.
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MeDotOrg wrote:Richard Nixon was...complicated. Very smart, awkward, paranoid. I wonder what kind of President he would have made had he the easy manner of FDR? There was always a bit of Sammy Glick about Nixon.
Evidently Nixon sabatoged Lyndon Johnson's peace talk efforts in order to get elected. I had heard this before, but never with this amount of detail to back if up:
At a July meeting in Nixon's New York apartment, the South Vietnamese ambassador was told Chennault represented Nixon and spoke for the campaign. If any message needed to be passed to the South Vietnamese president, Nguyen Van Thieu, it would come via Chennault.
In late October 1968 there were major concessions from Hanoi which promised to allow meaningful talks to get underway in Paris - concessions that would justify Johnson calling for a complete bombing halt of North Vietnam. This was exactly what Nixon feared. The US delegation, left, and North Vietnamese delegation at Paris peace talks The Paris peace talks may have ended years earlier, if it had not been for Nixon's subterfuge
Chennault was despatched to the South Vietnamese embassy with a clear message: the South Vietnamese government should withdraw from the talks, refuse to deal with Johnson, and if Nixon was elected, they would get a much better deal.
So on the eve of his planned announcement of a halt to the bombing, Johnson learned the South Vietnamese were pulling out.
He was also told why. The FBI had bugged the ambassador's phone and a transcripts of Anna Chennault's calls were sent to the White House. In one conversation she tells the ambassador to "just hang on through election".
Johnson was told by Defence Secretary Clifford that the interference was illegal and threatened the chance for peace.
"just hang on through the election"....hmm...sounds so familiar....where have i heard such similar and nefarious mumbling?....where oh where?
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