Dan Peterson breaks Church Rules in pursuit of Mopologetics

[_sock puppet]

Could only have served "the negative function of demonstrating that no bishop went to Israel"? No, it could have confirmed that one (or more) of the NAMES checked was a current (March 2013, 10 months after the fact in issue) bishop. With that Dan's list would be narrowed down further. Then with the remaining NAME(S), Dan could have used other in real life clues that Everybody Wang Chung has left, to then ascertain him and attempt to stop Everybody Wang Chung from posting his mind online.

Could have, but didn't.

And the fact that a negative answer came back from the database check does not absolve Dan's wrongdoing in having accessed the restricted database in the first place.

[_hobo1512]

And the fact that a negative answer came back from the database check does not absolve Dan's wrongdoing in having accessed the restricted database in the first place.

In other words, it's only bank robbery if you leave the building with the money.

[_3sheets2thewind]

So it wasn't wrong because no further questions were asked?

Yes.

ETA--If DCP had chosen to pursue a further investigation, I would agree 100% with you guys.

But the fact is, he didn't. And it is left entirely to speculation as to whether or not he would have pursued something further.

I don't believe he would have. You believe he would have.

That is where we stand. At an impasse.

Liz, where in the Condition.s of Use, is Dan non-Church business fishing permitted.

Remember according to Dan he only wanted to know if a Bishop was on the tour.

[_SteelHead]

Let's put it terms Liz may understand. Liz if I hack my way into your private board and read all of your pms without posting them public, have I done anything wrong?

[_Tator]

Liz, I normally agree with a lot of your ideas and opinions, the ones I don't I can tolerate but your ideas and opinions on this one are totally wrong headed*......IMHO.

*Just about rates with "light cotton" vs morality.

[_sock puppet]

And the fact that a negative answer came back from the database check does not absolve Dan's wrongdoing in having accessed the restricted database in the first place.

In other words, it's only bank robbery if you leave the building with the money.

No, my point is just the opposite. It's a bank robbery if he entered the bank, pointed a gun, asked for money, but left without any. The fact that the robber got no money does not absolve him from the wrongdoing.

liz's position is that it's only a bank robbery if you leave the building with the money. Since Dan didn't get confirmation from his bishop friend that any of those NAMES on the tour list were current bishops, liz's theory goes, Dan did not 'rob the bank'.

[_Yoda]

Liz, I normally agree with a lot of your ideas and opinions, the ones I don't I can tolerate but your ideas and opinions on this one are totally wrong headed*......IMHO.

*Just about rates with "light cotton" vs morality.

OK...HAVE to LOL at the light cotton reference!

And it's fine that we don't agree. That's what discussion is all about. Sometimes we agree and sometimes we don't.

[_Yoda]

Could only have served "the negative function of demonstrating that no bishop went to Israel"? No, it could have confirmed that one (or more) of the NAMES checked was a current (March 2013, 10 months after the fact in issue) bishop. With that Dan's list would be narrowed down further. Then with the remaining NAME(S), Dan could have used other in real life clues that Everybody Wang Chung has left, to then ascertain him and attempt to stop Everybody Wang Chung from posting his mind online.

First of all, I am not going to change my mind on my opinion about this. You guys can post until you're blue in the face. It is not going to change my mind, so basically, you are posting just to "hear yourselves talk". I'm fine with that. However, since this is a discussion board, I have to say I am already rather bored with it. But, feel free to continue to entertain yourselves.

I do have some reflective questions that you all may want to think about involving Sock Puppet's above post.

Sock mentioned that he felt that DCP was ultimately trying to put Everybody Wang Chung in a position where he couldn't "post his mind" online.

Just as something to think about...isn't this what Scratch has been doing to Dan for years? Scratch even went so far as to say that the only way he would stop posting detrimental things about Dan was if he quit apologetics, or, as he refers to it, "Mopologetics", altogether. He drove ttribe off the board in a similar way.

The sock puppet for Dallin H. Oaks, who, I am sure, was likely either Darth or Scratch, attempted to threaten me in a similar way by mentioning some of my writing that I didn't want publicized. I thank the Mods, Shades, in particular, for taking care of that particular post.

All I am saying is that it is laughable that you guys are all up on your high horse about this particular incident when hypocrisy so blatantly flies amok at MDB.

[_hobo1512]

Could only have served "the negative function of demonstrating that no bishop went to Israel"? No, it could have confirmed that one (or more) of the NAMES checked was a current (March 2013, 10 months after the fact in issue) bishop. With that Dan's list would be narrowed down further. Then with the remaining NAME(S), Dan could have used other in real life clues that Everybody Wang Chung has left, to then ascertain him and attempt to stop Everybody Wang Chung from posting his mind online.

First of all, I am not going to change my mind on my opinion about this. You guys can post until you're blue in the face. It is not going to change my mind, so basically, you are posting just to "hear yourselves talk". I'm fine with that. However, since this is a discussion board, I have to say I am already rather bored with it. But, feel free to continue to entertain yourselves.

I do have some reflective questions that you all may want to think about involving Sock Puppet's above post.

Sock mentioned that he felt that DCP was ultimately trying to put Everybody Wang Chung in a position where he couldn't "post his mind" online.

Just as something to think about...isn't this what Scratch has been doing to Dan for years? Scratch even went so far as to say that the only way he would stop posting detrimental things about Dan was if he quit apologetics, or, as he refers to it, "Mopologetics", altogether. He drove ttribe off the board in a similar way.

The sock puppet for Dallin H. Oaks, who, I am sure, was likely either Darth or Scratch, attempted to threaten me in a similar way by mentioning some of my writing that I didn't want publicized. I thank the Mods, Shades, in particular, for taking care of that particular post.

All I am saying is that it is laughable that you guys are all up on your high horse about this particular incident when hypocrisy so blatantly flies amok at MDB.

You know, on another board I visit, there is a questioning Mormon that made a really profound statement.

He talks about a "mental shelf" where Mormons put things they don't want to face.

I'm thinking some people (hint hint) have a whole library.

[_3sheets2thewind]

First, deny
Second, excuse
Third, create diversionary story
Fourth, blame shift.