Righteous!

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_Ceeboo
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Righteous!

Post by _Ceeboo »

Good day folks! :smile:

Righteous!

I have seen this word used a ton on the boards and most of the time, when I read it in a post, I become very uneasy (Not really sure why I have this reaction)

Anyway, a few questions I'll toss out there to see where, if anywhere, this discussion might go.

What does the word righteous mean to you?

Why does it get used as often as it does on these boards?

What say you?

Peace,
Ceeboo
_Bret Ripley
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Re: Righteous!

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Ceeboo wrote:Good day folks! :smile:

Righteous!...Why does it get used as often as it does on these boards?
It's all we have until Droopy coins "Leftious"?
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Re: Righteous!

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One might ask, must one be righteous to be worthy?
If so the following could determine worthiness/righteousness:

1. Do you believe in God, the Eternal Father, in his Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost; and do you have a firm testimony of the restored gospel?

2. Do you sustain the President of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as the prophet, seer, and revelator; and do you recognize him as the only person on the earth authorized to exercise all priesthood keys?

3. Do you sustain the other General Authorities and the local authorities of the Church?

4. Do you live the law of chastity?

5. Is there anything in your conduct relating to members of your family that is not in harmony with the teachings of the Church?

6. Do you affiliate with any group or individual whose teachings or practices are contrary to or oppose those accepted by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, or do you sympathize with the precepts of any such group or individual?

7. Do you earnestly strive to do your duty in the Church; to attend your sacrament, priesthood, and other meetings; and to obey the rules, laws, and commandments of the gospel?

8. Are you honest in your dealings with your fellowmen?

9. Are you a full-tithe payer?

10. Do you keep the Word of Wisdom?

11. Have you ever been divorced or are you now separated from your spouse under order of a civil court? If yes, (a) - Are you current in your support payments and other financial obligations for family members, as specified by court order or in other written, binding commitments? (b) Were there any circumstances of transgression in connection
with your divorce or separation that have not been previously resolved with your bishop?

12. If you have received your temple endowment -- (a) Do you keep all the covenants that you made in the temple? (b) Do you wear the authorized garments both day and night?

13. Has there been any sin or misdeed in your life that should have been resolved with priesthood authorities but has not?

14. Do you consider yourself worthy in every way to enter the temple and participate in temple ordinances?

In each interview, emphasize to the applicant the need to safeguard the recommend. It must never be loaned and should be reported immediately to the issuer if lost or stolen. (See "Lost, Stolen, or Revoked Recommends" on the preceding page.)

OLD Questions 11 & 12 (replaced by 11a & 11b)

11. Have you ever had a divorce that has not been cleared by appropriate priesthood authorities, where required?

12. If you have ever been divorced or separated, are you presently fulfilling your obligations for the support and maintenance of your family?
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Re: Righteous!

Post by _Ceeboo »

Hey Rocker! :smile:

That was the TR questions, yes?

Anyway, #6 strikes me as being fairly problematic..... as well as quite odd!

RockSlider wrote:
6. Do you affiliate with any group or individual whose teachings or practices are contrary to or oppose those accepted by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, or do you sympathize with the precepts of any such group or individual?


Thanks for the post and peace, friend! :smile:

Ceeboo
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Re: Righteous!

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Ceeboo wrote:Hey Rocker! :smile:

That was the TR questions, yes?

Anyway, #6 strikes me as being fairly problematic..... as well as quite odd!

RockSlider wrote:
6. Do you affiliate with any group or individual whose teachings or practices are contrary to or oppose those accepted by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, or do you sympathize with the precepts of any such group or individual?


Thanks for the post and peace, friend! :smile:

Ceeboo


Yes, for example to associate with Ceeboo is to associate with the whore of the earth and the church of the devil.

If you are not in correlated LDS material you are into Satan's den.
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Re: Righteous!

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Ceeboo wrote:Good day folks! :smile:

Righteous!

I have seen this word used a ton on the boards and most of the time, when I read it in a post, I become very uneasy (Not really sure why I have this reaction)

Anyway, a few questions I'll toss out there to see where, if anywhere, this discussion might go.

What does the word righteous mean to you?

Why does it get used as often as it does on these boards?

What say you?

Peace,
Ceeboo


Righteousness is a state of existence only made possible by the gift of God......anything attempting to come off righteous without the gift of God is.....hypocrisy.


Mosiah 27: 25
25 And the Lord said unto me: Marvel not that all mankind, yea, men and women, all nations, kindreds, tongues and people, must be born again; yea, born of God, changed from their carnal and fallen state, to a state of righteousness, being redeemed of God, becoming his sons and daughters;

Righteousness=rights with God in his kingdom=citizenship=adoption=conceived his seed.

Those who want it to be THAT WHICH THEY DO are the pharisees and the way of the world.
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Re: Righteous!

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Ceeboo wrote:Good day folks! :smile:

Righteous!

I have seen this word used a ton on the boards and most of the time, when I read it in a post, I become very uneasy (Not really sure why I have this reaction)

Anyway, a few questions I'll toss out there to see where, if anywhere, this discussion might go.

What does the word righteous mean to you?

Why does it get used as often as it does on these boards?

What say you?

Peace,
Ceeboo


I have a similar reaction to it Ceeboo.

I think that is because the user is giving God's approval to the behavior of another. It implies, to me at least, that the user knows how God feels about the actions of someone.
I am always uncomfortable when someone claims to know what God thinks.
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Re: Righteous!

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Compare Rocks temple recommend interview questions with my assessment of worthiness and righteousness.

You decide which is of God and which is of men and of the world.
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Re: Righteous!

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Fence Sitter wrote:
Ceeboo wrote:Good day folks! :smile:

Righteous!

I have seen this word used a ton on the boards and most of the time, when I read it in a post, I become very uneasy (Not really sure why I have this reaction)

Anyway, a few questions I'll toss out there to see where, if anywhere, this discussion might go.

What does the word righteous mean to you?

Why does it get used as often as it does on these boards?

What say you?

Peace,
Ceeboo


I have a similar reaction to it Ceeboo.

I think that is because the user is giving God's approval to the behavior of another. It implies, to me at least, that the user knows how God feels about the actions of someone.
I am always uncomfortable when someone claims to know what God thinks.

It, and its cousin "worthy", seem to be inherently judgemental, and sometimes they are used as blunt instruments to beat others with, or to practice well poisoning. Perhaps that is what makes Ceeboo uneasy?
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Re: Righteous!

Post by _zeezrom »

I agree, Ceebs. Other terms that make me feel uneasy:

Spiritual giant
Strong testimony
Oh for shame, how the mortals put the blame on us gods, for they say evils come from us, but it is they, rather, who by their own recklessness win sorrow beyond what is given... Zeus (1178 BC)

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