Potential for Conservative Welfare Savings

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Potential for Conservative Welfare Savings

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Data is in: Drug screening of welfare applicants is a mixed bag
New law » Agency tallies money saved due to aid-seekers declining to undergo screening.

By cathy mckitrick
The Salt Lake Tribune
Updated 1 hour ago

Data from Utah’s first year of screening welfare applicants for drug and alcohol abuse reveal that the Department of Workforce Services spent over $30,000 on surveys and drug tests but saved an estimated $369,000 in unpaid benefits because of the scores of applicants who walked away rather than submit to the scrutiny.

Rep. Brad Wilson, R-Kaysville, sponsored HB155 last year, placing Utah among eight states that now link welfare assistance to drug testing in some way. The National Conference of State Legislatures website notes that 29 more states might follow suit.
http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/politics/56829731-90/applicants-cornia-drug-http.html.csp


No poppy seed bagels for these folks. Now if we could only screen for eating meat sparingly.
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No wonder the Left is pulling out all the stops for the legalization of marijuana. Otherwise, they'd fall off the gravy train...

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More information on how this worked: Utah State Workforce Services only asked about drugs on a page length section with multiple questions. Even though they answered no, a red flagged alert of potential drug use was generated on one thousand profiles. The $369,000 savings was accrued when these potential dopers walked away rather than being tested.

Since all had dependent children as part of applying for AFDC, it makes me wonder what happened with these children.
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Their parents decided they needed to get jobs to properly support their kids.

by the way, D&C 89 doesn't say we are to "eat meat sparingly". Well it does say "sparingly" but it doesn't mean RARELY which is how you're interpreting it. We know this because of the next sentence in which God states that it's okay to eat meat at other times, other than cold, winter, and famine, which if you knew the history is when meat was most eaten because it was nearly the only thing to eat at those times.

Thus, the "doctrine" is simply that we moderate our intake of meat, and that is according to our own judgment, not that we rarely eat it.
And this has always been the doctrine, perfectly in line with the scripture.

Further, both Biblical scripture and other D&C scripture specifically states that whoso forbideth to eat meat is not of God, thus directly condemning Vegetarianism.

In conclusion, it wasn't meaning "rarely" it was meaning sparingly, and what that is is according to our own judgment.
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ldsfaqs wrote:Their parents decided they needed to get jobs to properly support their kids.

by the way, D&C 89 doesn't say we are to "eat meat sparingly". Well it does say "sparingly" but it doesn't mean RARELY which is how you're interpreting it. We know this because of the next sentence in which God states that it's okay to eat meat at other times, other than cold, winter, and famine, which if you knew the history is when meat was most eaten because it was nearly the only thing to eat at those times.

Thus, the "doctrine" is simply that we moderate our intake of meat, and that is according to our own judgment, not that we rarely eat it.
And this has always been the doctrine, perfectly in line with the scripture.

Further, both Biblical scripture and other D&C scripture specifically states that whoso forbideth to eat meat is not of God, thus directly condemning Vegetarianism.

In conclusion, it wasn't meaning "rarely" it was meaning sparingly, and what that is is according to our own judgment.


12 Yea, flesh also of beasts and of the fowls of the air, I, the Lord, have ordained for the use of man with thanksgiving; nevertheless they are to be used sparingly;

13 And it is pleasing unto me that they should not be used, only in times of winter, or of cold, or famine.

14 All grain is ordained for the use of man and of beasts, to be the staff of life, not only for man but for the beasts of the field, and the fowls of heaven, and all wild animals that run or creep on the earth;

15 And these hath God made for the use of man only in times of famine and excess of hunger.


To what is God referring in the sentence I bolded?
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The real scandal is that you could give out straight cash to welfare recipients to the point that they receive much more than they do now and cut social spending in half or better.
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