Furthermore, my LDS friends tell me that when a father comes under church discipline, he will be barred from participation in ceremonies such as the blessing and naming of his children as part of his punishment. This outsider finds it curious that the church punishes unrighteous fathers by treating them like faithful mothers.
MsJack's column is very well written, and this is one of the great "take away" lines in it. I lol'd when I read that.
why me wrote:I am happy to hear that Ms.Jack's church is pretty near wonderful and pretty near perfect. I have been hearing this for years now. But to my knowledge she has never been Mormon and her husband is. But I am glad that she can have such a opinion. But I have to wonder what would need to be done by a member of her church for her church to excommunicate them. Maybe by constantly disagreeing with doctrine or by causing mayhem in meetings because of it?
Perhaps as a member of Jack's church I can begin to proclaim that christ was not perfect and neither was god. Christ showed his imperfection by appointing twelve male apostles. A perfect being would have included at least 6 women. And god being a perfect god would have given the notion of birth a choice between female and male. The first two births can be done by the male and the next two births done by the female. But god being imperfect chose just one sex to give birth.
By constantly proclaiming christ to be imperfect, would her church excommunicate me?
Hey idiot. Do you know who the first apostles were -- according to the definition provided in Acts?
Can you name them? Of course you can't.
Let me help you out. Mary and Mary. The first witnesses of Jesus' resurrection. Two women who had been with him from the beginning. Do you know what that makes them? The very first apostles. Chosen before Peter,James, and John who lacked faith.
why me wrote:I am happy to hear that Ms.Jack's church is pretty near wonderful and pretty near perfect. I have been hearing this for years now. But to my knowledge she has never been Mormon and her husband is. But I am glad that she can have such a opinion. But I have to wonder what would need to be done by a member of her church for her church to excommunicate them. Maybe by constantly disagreeing with doctrine or by causing mayhem in meetings because of it?
Perhaps as a member of Jack's church I can begin to proclaim that christ was not perfect and neither was god. Christ showed his imperfection by appointing twelve male apostles. A perfect being would have included at least 6 women. And god being a perfect god would have given the notion of birth a choice between female and male. The first two births can be done by the male and the next two births done by the female. But god being imperfect chose just one sex to give birth.
By constantly proclaiming christ to be imperfect, would her church excommunicate me?
Hey dip****. Do you know who the first apostles were -- according to the definition provided in Acts?
Can you name them? Of course you can't.
Let me help you out. Mary and Mary. The first witnesses of Jesus' resurrection. Two women who had been with him from the beginning. Do you know what that makes them? The very first apostles. Chosen before Peter,James, and John who lacked faith.
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Excellent point!
So you're chasing around a fly and in your world, I'm the idiot?
"Friends don't let friends be Mormon." Sock Puppet, MDB.
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"And that is precisely why none of us apologize for holding it to the celestial standard it pretends that it possesses." Kerry, MDB _________________
bcspace wrote:All Mormon women have equal access to authority. So what?
My wife has 'access' to my dick. Not the same as having a dick.
Dick.
Perfect response to an intentionally stupid answer.
"We have taken up arms in defense of our liberty, our property, our wives, and our children; we are determined to preserve them, or die." - Captain Moroni - 'Address to the Inhabitants of Canada' 1775
Furthermore, my LDS friends tell me that when a father comes under church discipline, he will be barred from participation in ceremonies such as the blessing and naming of his children as part of his punishment. This outsider finds it curious that the church punishes unrighteous fathers by treating them like faithful mothers.
MsJack's column is very well written, and this is one of the great "take away" lines in it. I lol'd when I read that.
Agreed. I'd give her a Pulitzer for these two sentences alone.
It’s relatively easy to agree that only Homo sapiens can speak about things that don’t really exist, and believe six impossible things before breakfast. You could never convince a monkey to give you a banana by promising him limitless bananas after death in monkey heaven.