Distinguishing Fact From Fiction...

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This story is a little late for the thread "Explaining the Book of Mormon". http://mormondiscussions.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=35162&p=834159#p834159, but I think it applies in many ways.

Cognitive Science wrote:Young children who are exposed to religion have a hard time differentiating between fact and fiction, according to a new study published in the July issue of Cognitive Science.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/21/children-religion-fact-fiction_n_5607009.html?utm_hp_ref=politics

I think it might hold some explanations for many of our TBM friends, as well.
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I liked this comment from the comment section:

As a liberal atheist, I find it interesting how Liberals pretend the Right has a monopoly on religion. The left is as religious as the right. The majority of the country is religious (around 95 percent) so to pretend this is a right and left thing is laughable.

Not to mention, living in California, I find liberals believing in utter woo. Astrology anyone?

So stop pretending you religious liberals and own up to the nonsense you believe. Or grow a pair and come out as an atheist.


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Jesse Pinkman wrote:
commentator from the peanut gallery wrote:Or grow a pair and come out as an atheist.


I like Lily Allen's version better:
Forget your balls, and grow a pair of tits
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Quasimodo wrote:This story is a little late for the thread "Explaining the Book of Mormon". http://mormondiscussions.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=35162&p=834159#p834159, but I think it applies in many ways.

Cognitive Science wrote:Young children who are exposed to religion have a hard time differentiating between fact and fiction, according to a new study published in the July issue of Cognitive Science.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/21/children-religion-fact-fiction_n_5607009.html?utm_hp_ref=politics

I think it might hold some explanations for many of our TBM friends, as well.


Interesting, Quas.

You know, I recall believing that if a church authority said something is true, then it MUST be truth. If so, then I didn't have to question it. This is why my falling away happened right after grad school. I finally had to question authority over and over again. It broke me.
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zeezrom wrote:Interesting, Quas.

You know, I recall often wondering if a church authority said something was true. If so, then I didn't have to question it. This is why my falling away happened right after grad school. I finally had to question authority over and over again. It broke me.


Hi, Z!

I think the patterns of thinking that one is taught to use as a very small child are very hard to overcome. We see it here all the time.

I'll read a post from an obviously intelligent person and wonder how they can believe what they are defending. Being here has helped me to understand just how hard it must be for many people to question the authorities they have been brought up to always revere.

I think I see it most when we are discussing topics like the Book of Abraham. The extent to which those that need to believe in the Book of Abraham will go to promote even the most implausible justifications to ease their doubts.
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Quasimodo wrote:Hi, Z!

I think the patterns of thinking that one is taught to use as a very small child are very hard to overcome. We see it here all the time.

I'll read a post from an obviously intelligent person and wonder how they can believe what they are defending. Being here has helped me to understand just how hard it must be for many people to question the authorities they have been brought up to always revere.

I think I see it most when we are discussing topics like the Book of Abraham. The extent to which those that need to believe in the Book of Abraham will go to promote even the most implausible justifications to ease their doubts.

You know, I think it is scary to question authority. Sending your daughter off to LDS girl's camp is really easy for a Mormon mother. Sending your daughter off to a camping trip with her friend's family is scarier (it seems). With the authority of the church, nothing could possibly go wrong...
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zeezrom wrote:You know, I think it is scary to question authority. Sending your daughter off to LDS girl's camp is really easy for a Mormon mother. Sending your daughter off to a camping trip with her friend's family is scarier (it seems). With the authority of the church, nothing could possibly go wrong...


I had great parents. They taught me to always be a little suspicious of authority figures. In essence, to think for myself instead of accepting the standard beliefs or the proclamations of those in charge. It's served me well.
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Quasimodo wrote:I had great parents. They taught me to always be a little suspicious of authority figures. In essence, to think for myself instead of accepting the standard beliefs or the proclamations of those in charge. It's served me well.

What's interesting is that my parents were the same way... except with church authorities.
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I had great parents. They taught me to always be a little suspicious of authority figures. In essence, to think for myself instead of accepting the standard beliefs or the proclamations of those in charge. It's served me well.


And did you just drink the Kool-Aid on this one because your parents told you to or did you question it?
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Gadianton wrote:
I had great parents. They taught me to always be a little suspicious of authority figures. In essence, to think for myself instead of accepting the standard beliefs or the proclamations of those in charge. It's served me well.


And did you just drink the Kool-Aid on this one because your parents told you to or did you question it?


:lol:

I had my rebellious days as a teenager, like everyone else. It mostly consisted of wearing Levis with big holes, long hair (very long hair) and sandals. I remember my folks having a long conversation about my pony tail, which my dad ended by saying "Really, what does it matter?"
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